Thai Tourists the Main Focus for Pattaya

[Dodger]

It would sure be nice if Pattaya held off on announcing any more reopening date(s) until after 70% of the population has been vaccinated, versus continuing to announce artificial dates which does nothing but confuse the general public and tourists.

The 70% baseline was established by the CCSA and agreed upon by the government a year ago with no signs of changing. Due to insufficient supplies of vaccine Pattaya is nowhere close to hitting this target (data is all over the map).

The ball is still in the Governments court - and that's where it belongs.

If I was a tourist wanting to visit Thailand I would wait until it was substantiated that the 70% goal had been achieved before making any plans, regardless of what any of the local Thai newspapers were saying. That's all smoke & mirrors.

Pattaya is fully aware of the fact that Thai tourists don't spend anywhere close to what foreign tourists spend while on holiday, but something is better than nothing.

Local residents,Thai and farang, (including myself) are concerned about unvaccinated Thais, especially from Bangkok, coming to party in our towns. Places where they go will be avoided by many as a result.

[Old git]

Local residents,Thai and farang, (including myself) are concerned about unvaccinated Thais, especially from Bangkok, coming to party in our towns. Places where they go will be avoided by many as a result.

The widely held assumption that vaccinated people are less of a risk does not hold up well to scrutiny. Vaccinated people are catching Delta somewhat less easily than the unvaccinated, but it is still working its way through their numbers.

A vaccinated person is far more likely to be unaware of being infected however, far more likely to go out and party, spreading the bug unwittingly, than one who has not been jabbed, who is much more likely to take to their bed and stay there.

It's a bit counter-intuitive. Vaccination is great for the individual as a means of reducing impact, but the wider social impact may actually be a negative one.

[Dodger]

The widely held assumption that vaccinated people are less of a risk does not hold up well to scrutiny. Vaccinated people are catching Delta somewhat less easily than the unvaccinated, but it is still working its way through their numbers..

It's well-established that vaccinated people are less likely to get the virus than unvaccinated people, and experience much milder side-effects in the event they do. Thus the reason every country on earth is racing to get as many people vaccinated as possible.

Having a population that's mostly vaccinated doesn't prevent a person from getting the virus, I don't think anyone would debate that fact, but the risk of hospitals being overwhelmed with covid patients resulting from a super-spreader are much less in an environment where the majority of people are vaccinated, for the mere fact that the symptoms are so much milder.

When the hospitals are overwhelmed (over capacity) - then everyone's at risk. This has already happened once in Thailand caused by the rapid spread of the highly contagious Delta Variant and I don't think anyone wants to see a rerun.

[goji]

The probability of catching severe covid is reduced by over 90% with a proper vaccine.
The probability of catching mild or asymptomatic covid is reduced by less. Some studies quote figures in the 67~88% range (delta).

The effect of the vaccines on transmission are difficult to measure. So of course, it's not well understood.


However, some things are easy to understand:
1 Foreign tourists usually have had 2 doses of a non-Chinese vaccine that works
2 They have to pass a PCR test before departing
3 They have to take further PCR tests on arrival
4 The screened foreign tourist is lower risk than the unscreened local tourist.

Unless, of course, they apply the same rules to the local tourists. Somehow I think that won't happen, as it would kill off any local tourist trade as well.

I'm not sure what the Thai government are thinking. Keeping the borders shut makes sense if a country is free from covid, as at times in 2020. As covid is now endemic in the country, policy needs to be adjusted to reflect the new reality.

[Old git]

It's well-established that vaccinated people are less likely to get the virus than unvaccinated people, and experience much milder side-effects in the event they do. Thus the reason every country on earth is racing to get as many people vaccinated as possible.

The wider benefits of vaccination, such as protecting health services from overload, are undeniable, but at an individual level, are you safer partying with a crowd of vaccinated people or unvaccinated? Because the vaccinated are far more likely to be asymptomatically infected - but still infectious - you are probably better off with the un-jabbed..

[goji]

Because the vaccinated are far more likely to be asymptomatically infected - but still infectious - you are probably better off with the un-jabbed..

What is your source of data for this ?

[Old git]

What is your source of data for this ?

A combination of what has been reported in national media and backed up by correspondence with friends and family.

A lot of vaccinated people get very slight symptoms, notably fatigue, that they do not immediately recognise as illness.

[Oliver2]

Fatigue? I've obviously been suffering from Covid for a number of years. I thought it was down to ageing.

[Manforallseasons]

Thousands of Thais visit Pattaya & Koh Larn:

https://thepattayanews.com/2021/09/2...-long-weekend/

[latintopxxx]

old got...u r a total idiot