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Thread: So, when WILL tourism return to normal?

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    Re: So, when WILL tourism return to normal?

    Tourism back to somewhat normal without quarantine, in Bangkok.....NEXT SUMMER

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    Re: So, when WILL tourism return to normal?

    The Covid testing fees need to be seen as a catalyst, an iniquitous and needless imposition, rather than as an absolute cost.

    Vaccination is not ending this pandemic, and the narrative that once everyone is vaccinated, everything will be OK, is a false dream. Vaccination makes the more vulnerable far safer from bad outcomes, but that's about the limit of it. Hardly anyone is getting Covid more than once, so the end game will occur when everyone has had a brush with the real McCoy. Many people can't afford to wait long for that now - they need to get it over with.

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    Re: So, when WILL tourism return to normal?

    wrong...if everyone...or at least 90% were fully vaccinated then it would be like the flu...99,5% of deaths attributed to covid are the unvaccinated...

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    Re: So, when WILL tourism return to normal?

    Quote Originally Posted by latintopxxx View Post
    wrong...if everyone...or at least 90% were fully vaccinated then it would be like the flu...99,5% of deaths attributed to covid are the unvaccinated...
    Where on earth did you get that number from ?

    In the UK at the moment, 2/3 of Covid related deaths are amongst the unvaccinated, but a third had been jabbed.

    Vaccination is clearly a mitigating measure, but not a solution.

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    Re: So, when WILL tourism return to normal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Old git View Post
    Where on earth did you get that number from ?

    In the UK at the moment, 2/3 of Covid related deaths are amongst the unvaccinated, but a third had been jabbed.

    Vaccination is clearly a mitigating measure, but not a solution.
    I agree the numbers are slightly out, but that's not the main point.

    It seems the vaccines reduce the death rate by over 90%. Add in some improved treatment and we're already getting to a level where the death rate is comparable to a bad flu outbreak.
    We all carry on as normal if flu is around, so covid vaccines will allow us to carry on as normal with covid. Which is exactly what's happening in the UK at present.
    Anything which gets the death rate down to something comparable with other infections that we already live with is a solution.

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    Re: So, when WILL tourism return to normal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Old git View Post

    Vaccination is clearly a mitigating measure, but not a solution.
    You're right, but it appears to be the best game in town.

    If you have a better solution I'm sure the WHO and every nation on earth would appreciate hearing about it.

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    Re: So, when WILL tourism return to normal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dodger View Post
    You're right, but it appears to be the best game in town.

    If you have a better solution I'm sure the WHO and every nation on earth would appreciate hearing about it.
    The best solution seems to be to get everyone in mortal danger jabbed, to mitigate that danger, and having done so, stop running way from the bug so people can get their lives back. With a relatively young demographic - only about one Thai in eight is over 65 - getting those at risk jabbed is not a very big ask.

    In the case of the LoS, there are literally millions who are suffering substantive harm from the lack of tourists - harm that for most of them greatly outweighs the risks from Covid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old git View Post

    With a relatively young demographic - only about one Thai in eight is over 65 - getting those at risk jabbed is not a very big ask.
    Thailand is currently ranked the third most rapidly ageing population in the world. The number of people aged 60 and over in Thailand now stands at about 13 million, accounting for 20% of the population.

    To make matters worse, the majority of Thais are opposed to taking the Sinovac vaccine which is being force-fed to them.

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    Re: So, when WILL tourism return to normal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dodger View Post
    Thailand is currently ranked the third most rapidly ageing population in the world. The number of people aged 60 and over in Thailand now stands at about 13 million, accounting for 20% of the population.

    To make matters worse, the majority of Thais are opposed to taking the Sinovac vaccine which is being force-fed to them.
    Thailand's baby boomers are now in their fifties and early sixties, but as a percentage, there are still twice as many over 80's in the UK than in Thailand

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    Re: So, when WILL tourism return to normal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Old git View Post
    Thailand's baby boomers are now in their fifties and early sixties, but as a percentage, there are still twice as many over 80's in the UK than in Thailand
    Maybe that accounts for the very low death rate in Thailand?

    Number of cases in UK 6.6 m. Number of deaths 132,000

    Number of cases in LoS 1.1 m. Number of deaths 10,300

    Approx 50% of the death rate of the UK...and with less vaccination.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

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