Cambodia during the pandemic

[vnman]

In most cases, it's a voluntary & self inflicted condition.

Anyone who thinks otherwise should ask themselves if the sudden increase in obesity in recent decades is due to either:
(i) A sudden change in the gene pool in the last 50 years, after thousands of years of slow evolution
OR
(ii) People eating too much trashy food and exercising less

How is this even important? The point is that morbid obesity is an underlying condition, self-inflicted or not.

Maybe we should investigate if people with liver problems have not been excessive drinkers.

This is like a flashback to the HIV epidemic. Who's at fault because of unprotected sex (or even for being gay) and who isn't because of a blood transfusion.

[goji]

How is this even important?

Compared with your other 2 examples, obesity is the only condition that's easily reversible.

Also, when hospitals have too many patients and have to resort to triage to decide which patient gets the ventilator, it seems some countries have had policies of prioritizing individuals who are otherwise healthy. Then the lifestyle choices become important.

[vnman]

Compared with your other 2 examples, obesity is the only condition that's easily reversible.

Is that so doctor?

btw, I'm sure if you would ask anyone obese if it would be easier to lose weight or fuck with a condom... They would probably choose the latter.

Also, when hospitals have too many patients and have to resort to triage to decide which patient gets the ventilator, it seems some countries have had policies of prioritizing individuals who are otherwise healthy. Then the lifestyle choices become important.

Now, if you just wanted to express your feelings about obesity, mission accomplished. The point still stands that it's an underlying condition. It seems that you don't have an argument that contradicts this.

[goji]

The point still stands that it's an underlying condition. It seems that you don't have an argument that contradicts this.

I don't disagree. It's an underlying condition that's ALSO voluntary and self inflicted (in almost all cases).

Since that's reversible by just a little bit of self control, such people can make their own choices. They shouldn't expect to be prioritized above others for medical care.