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Thread: AstraZeneca VS Pfizer Efficacy Against Covid Variants

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    AstraZeneca VS Pfizer Efficacy Against Covid Variants

    https://www.reuters.com/business/hea...ds-2021-07-21/

    Wednesday's study found that two doses of Pfizer's shot was 88% effective at preventing symptomatic disease from the Delta variant, compared to 93.7% against the Alpha variant, broadly the same as previously reported.

    Two shots of AstraZeneca vaccine were 67% effective against the Delta variant, up from 60% originally reported, and 74.5% effective against the Alpha variant, compared to an original estimate of 66% effectiveness.
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    Re: AstraZeneca VS Pfizer Efficacy Against Covid Variants

    Israel +57% at past week,
    Canada +57%
    USA +54%
    Finland +50%
    France +45%
    Italy +43%
    Germany +38%
    ...
    Russia -5%

    https://www.worldometers.info/corona.../#weekly_table
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    Re: AstraZeneca VS Pfizer Efficacy Against Covid Variants

    Russian Covid deaths reach new high: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...me-2021-07-29/
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    Re: AstraZeneca VS Pfizer Efficacy Against Covid Variants

    This seems to be the most important take-away from the article:

    Two doses of Pfizer (PFE.N) or AstraZeneca's (AZN.L) COVID-19 vaccine are nearly as effective against the highly transmissible Delta coronavirus variant as they are against the previously dominant Alpha variant, a study published on Wednesday showed.

    Forget about the efficacy percentages and watch the video posted on "Vaccines in a Nushell".

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    Re: AstraZeneca VS Pfizer Efficacy Against Covid Variants

    Quote Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    Israel +57% at past week,
    Canada +57%
    USA +54%
    Finland +50%
    France +45%
    Italy +43%
    Germany +38%
    ...
    Russia -5%

    https://www.worldometers.info/corona.../#weekly_table
    This has no relevance at all to the topic. Israel and the US do not even use the Astra Zeneca vaccine.
    You forgot the UK, with a -37% in the last week (Astra Zeneca is the most widely used vaccine), despite the removal of almost all domestic restrictions.
    Not that a one week change in figures is a measure of efficacy.

    If the objective is to cherry pick good data to show how well Russia is doing, well here are figures for deaths per million in the last 7 days (below).
    Considering the terrible result, it's good to see the number of cases in Russia declining. I guess that's not due to Sputnik, as less than 25% of the Russian population have taken it. Why ?

    World Deaths Per Million
    3 Russia 37.21
    9 USA 5.53
    15 Thailand 9.50
    16 Philippines 5.19
    21 UK 5.67
    23 Vietnam 1.92
    41 Cambodia 9.61

    Getting back to the topic, cutting your risk of getting covid to 1/8 th of the original level seems like a good result.

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    Re: AstraZeneca VS Pfizer Efficacy Against Covid Variants

    Quote Originally Posted by goji View Post
    This has no relevance at all to the topic. Israel and the US do not even use the Astra Zeneca vaccine.
    The UK is -37% in the last week (Astra Zeneca is the most widely used vaccine)
    Not that a one week change in figures is a measure of efficacy.

    If the objective is to cherry pick good data to show how well Russia is doing, well here are figures for deaths per million in the last 7 days (below).

    World Deaths Per Million
    3 Russia 37.21
    9 USA 5.53
    15 Thailand 9.50
    16 Philippines 5.19
    21 UK 5.67
    23 Vietnam 1.92
    41 Cambodia 9.61
    Just wait till Delta will come to USA "in full" and you will see another numbers...

    Russian numbers are results of peak Delta 4 weeks ago when we had here around 25000 sick per day.

    In Moscow we had about 10000 sick per day and only 15% of vaccinated. 6 weeks ago mayor announced what business which has less than 60% vaccinated till August 1st will be closed till time when it will have 60%... And owners started to push staff to get vaccination. Now we have here about 50% of vaccinated and +/-3000 cases per day.

    New announcement from mayor: business what has less than 80% vaccinated will be closed at October 1st.

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    Re: AstraZeneca VS Pfizer Efficacy Against Covid Variants

    Quote Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    Just wait till Delta will come to USA "in full" and you will see another numbers...
    Stop watching RT…it is already there!
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    Re: AstraZeneca VS Pfizer Efficacy Against Covid Variants

    Quote Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    Just wait till Delta will come to USA "in full" and you will see another numbers...
    You mean 92,000 cases today isn't high enough for you?

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    Re: AstraZeneca VS Pfizer Efficacy Against Covid Variants

    Quote Originally Posted by cdnmatt View Post
    You mean 92,000 cases today isn't high enough for you?
    It isn't "in full" yet... you will see...
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    Re: AstraZeneca VS Pfizer Efficacy Against Covid Variants

    Quote Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    Just wait till Delta will come to USA "in full" and you will see another numbers...

    Russian numbers are results of peak Delta 4 weeks ago when we had here around 25000 sick per day.
    Case numbers in the US might well go up. The death rate amongst those vaccinated will be very low.

    The death rate among the anti-vaxxers will be an order of magnitude higher, but belonging to this tribe is voluntary. That's natural selection at work.

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