Vaccine Rollout in Thailand

[Moses]

"The revelations could raise doubts about the effectiveness of the vaccine, which is being widely used around the world......"

Ohhh... That why UK planning to make third jab of AstraZeneca at this summer
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-h...kdown-variant/

[Brad the Impala]

Ohhh... That why UK planning to make third jab of AstraZeneca at this summer
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-h...kdown-variant/

This article suggests a booster 3rd vaccine to protect against new variants or as insurance as the longevity of vaccine protection is unknown, inevitably this is true for all vaccines. That's surely quite different from a vaccine failing to create an immune response in some of those vaccinated.

[StevieWonders]

Ohhh... That why UK planning to make third jab of AstraZeneca at this summer
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-h...kdown-variant/

I’ve found Sinopharm’s transparency on this issue reassuring. If only AstraZeneca would emulate such transparency.

[cdnmatt]

Ohhh... That why UK planning to make third jab of AstraZeneca at this summer
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-h...kdown-variant/

You're incessant need to always make this some nationalistic "us vs. them" competition is really beyond the pale.

You do realize that we're all fucked until the world achieves herd immunity, right? Having a country vaccinated doesn't mean much when the virus is still rapidly spreading and mutating all over the place.

[homeseeker]

"Results from the long-awaited US trial of the Oxford-AstraZeneca Covid vaccine are out and confirm that the shot is both safe and highly effective.

More than 32,000 volunteers took part, mostly in America, but also in Chile and Peru.

The vaccine was 79% effective against stopping symptomatic Covid disease and 100% effective at preventing people from falling seriously ill.

And there were no safety issues regarding blood clots."

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-56479462

[gary]

After speaking to an NHS nurse, they’ve been informed that of the 14 million people given the Astra Zeneca jab in Europe, 40 have reported blood clots, and all have survived.

[bkkguy]

Bad news for Thailand’s reliance on the Chinese vaccines (Laos and Cambodia are similarly placed)

I am not sure why you see this as bad news for Thailand - the news item and the following discussion here was about the Sinopharm vaccine, but Thailand is using the Sinovac vaccine - different companies, different vaccines, different clinic trial history, different results in the field, so why should this have a significant impact on Thailand's vaccine rollout

or maybe you have a link showing a similar problem for Sinovac? or are you just worried about under-protected sex workers from Cambodia crossing the border?

[goji]

After speaking to an NHS nurse, they’ve been informed that of the 14 million people given the Astra Zeneca jab in Europe, 40 have reported blood clots, and all have survived.

Also last week I read that something like 940,000 in Spain had the Astra Zeneca jab and they had 1 blood clot case.
At the time, Spain had a 0.6% infection rate.
So of the 940,000, if they had not been vaccinated, 5640 might be expected to have covid.
Assuming a 1% death rate, that would be 56 dead if no vaccine was deployed.
Or if they were prioritizing the elderly for vaccination and we assume a 10% death rate, that's 564 dead with covid, if no vaccine were deployed.

Compared with 1 blood clot case. So whatever death rate you assume, the vaccine with blood clot risk looks orders of magnitude better than no vaccine & higher covid risk.

[StevieWonders]

I am not sure why you see this as bad news for Thailand - the news item and the following discussion here was about the Sinopharm vaccine, but Thailand is using the Sinovac vaccine - different companies, different vaccines, different clinic trial history, different results in the field, so why should this have a significant impact on Thailand's vaccine rollout

or maybe you have a link showing a similar problem for Sinovac? or are you just worried about under-protected sex workers from Cambodia crossing the border?

I refer you to post #5

[Moses]

You're incessant need to always make this some nationalistic "us vs. them" competition is really beyond the pale.

Oh, dear, I'm not from China, nor from UK... "us"? "them"?