23 died in Norway after vaccination by Pfizer

[Moses]

https://legemiddelverket.no/nyheter/...14-januar-2021

Translation by Google:

Reported side effects after coronary vaccine per. January 14, 2021
23 deaths have been reported in connection with vaccination. So far, 13 of these have been assessed. Common side effects may have contributed to a severe course in frail elderly people... may have led to deaths.

Note: total amount of vaccinated in Norway at Jan 12 was 25000.

[StevieWonders]

The Norwegian Medicines Agency linked 13 deaths to the corona vaccine’s side effects. Those who died had two things in common – they were old and frail.

A total of 23 deaths have been reported in connection with the corona vaccination.

So far, 13 of these have been assessed.
“The reports might indicate that common side effects from mRNA vaccines, such as fever and nausea, may have led to deaths in some frail patients,” chief physician Sigurd Hortemo in the Norwegian Medicines Agency noted.

https://norwaytoday.info/news/norweg...frail-and-old/

Given that Phase 3 tests would have excluded the frail elderly this is a hardly surprising outcome.

[goji]

https://legemiddelverket.no/nyheter/...14-januar-2021

Translation by Google:



Note: total amount of vaccinated in Norway at Jan 12 was 25000.

A few questions arise:
1 Is that a reliable source ? Bear in mind, the anti-vaxxers are like some crazed cult.
2 What would the normal winter death rate be for the older and fragile people at the top of the queue for the vaccine ?
3 How will the death rate compare for vaccinated and non-vaccinated people over an extended period? Bearing in mind that no one will accept lockdown for all of 2021. So hundreds of them might die with no vaccine and no lockdown.
I suspect the stats would support the vaccine.

I would take any covid vaccine that's been through proper double blind trials with published results.

[StevieWonders]

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[cdnmatt]

A few questions arise:
1 Is that a reliable source ? Bear in mind, the anti-vaxxers are like some crazed cult.

Seems to be a possibility... Google something like "Noray 23 die Pfizer vaccine", and you don't get much. You get a few hits like:

Pledge Times - The Path to Enlightenment -- https://pledgetimes.com/over-20-pfiz...ied-in-norway/

Some obscure Islamic news site (hosted on a .news domain) -- https://see.news/norway-23-dead-afte...ntech-vaccine/

Union - News of Ukraine (hosted on a .info domain) -- https://www.unian.info/world/covid-1...-11285645.html

Then there's eg24.news. -- https://www.eg24.news/2021/01/norway...cine-died.html

And that's literally all you get for hits, aside from some people's Twitter handles and the like. Not exactly high on the respected meter.

[Moses]

So far Corona kills around 1 of 110 in Norway, Pfizer 1 of 1000.

[cdnmatt]

So far Corona kills around 1 of 110 in Norway, Pfizer 1 of 1000.

If that was actually true, I'm guessing it would have made bigger news than an article in "Pledge - Path to Enlightenment" and on al-Shamimi Habab's .news web site.

[dinagam]

So far Corona kills around 1 of 110 in Norway, Pfizer 1 of 1000.

I hope those who died from taking Pfizer did not suffer from a massive erection. That would be an embarrassing rigor mortis.

[Moses]

If that was actually true, I'm guessing it would have made bigger news than an article in "Pledge - Path to Enlightenment" and on al-Shamimi Habab's .news web site.

Just google "Det er meldt om 23 dødsfall i forbindelse med vaksinasjon" - Norwegian press and TV already discussing that widely today.

It is news from Jan 14 and published to late to be reprinted. Wait for today, but I doubt you will find it in global news - they are happy to publish news about "COVID crisis" in China with 30 new sick persons and shut their mouth about 1500+ daily died in UK or 4000+ in USA.

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202101/1212915.shtml

Chinese health experts called on Norway and other countries to suspend the use of mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines produced by companies such as Pfizer, especially among elderly people, due to the vaccines' safety uncertainties following the deaths of 23 elderly Norwegian people who received the vaccine.

Pfizer loose "trade war" in Asia and in Latin America week ago and started to publish gossips about SinoVac... now Pfizer got "reaction"... marketing and PR... I'm sure - news from Norway is true and now Pfizer is busy in distributing cash or promising some future support and deals just for to shut up medias...

[cdnmatt]

It is news from Jan 14 and published to late to be reprinted. Wait for today, but I doubt you will find it in global news - they are happy to publish news about "COVID crisis" in China with 30 new sick persons and shut their mouth about 1500+ daily died in UK or 4000+ in USA.

Obviously, I take it you don't watch much Western news. All they do is cover KoVid-19, the daily death toll, number of sick, economic impact, vaccine rollout, how horrible of a job Trump has done handling it, etc.

Hell, two people in the UK got a little sick from the Pfizer vaccine, and the next day we all knew about it. Same as when a couple medical workers in Alaska also got sick.

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202101/1212915.shtml

That's the equivalent of listening to Fox News in the US/. Can't you find an actual reputable news source for this claim? Reuters, AP, CNN, al_jazeera, BBC, CBC, someone....

I'll wait for it to show up somewhere reputable, and until then, will take it with a grain of salt.