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    Re: Thai COVID-19 vaccine acquisitions

    Quote Originally Posted by Moggy View Post
    Its just been announced the Oxford vaccine is effective against the covid strain detected by the UK and also the South African strain.
    Thanks Moggy I found a source and it is very encouraging.

    "The Covid-19 vaccine from Pfizer and BioNTech appears to protect against a mutation in two coronavirus variants that are causing rapid spread across the UK, research suggests.
    The pharmaceutical company and researchers from the University of Texas medical branch carried out lab tests on the variants, one of which was found in the UK while the other originated in South Africa."

    For balance:

    "Stephen Evans, a professor of pharmacoepidemiology at the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine, said: “This is good news, mainly because it is not bad news.
    “Had the opposite result been found, that the vaccine did not seem to have efficacy against the variation of the virus studied, that would have been bad and very concerning.
    “So, yes this is good news, but it does not yet give us total confidence that the Pfizer (or other) vaccines will definitely give protection."



    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...study-suggests

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    Thank god for that as I’m not sure I could start this shit all over again ! Now let’s hope it works on the next few new strains when they appear too !

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    Re: Thai COVID-19 vaccine acquisitions

    The commentary about the current vaccines can be summed up as “If it works (it doesn’t for everyone) at the very least it will reduce severity if you do catch COVID-19 but there’s no guarantee you won’t infect others even if the vaccine protects you”. Based on that, countries such as Australia are warning that international travel may not resume until late 2021 at the earliest.

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    An addendum to the above - here’s a link to the Australian views influencing government decisions -

    https://www.smh.com.au/business/comp...06-p56s3t.html

    When Qantas announced it was reopening bookings for international travel from July the government was swift to respond with a “not so fast - we make the decisions, not you” comment.

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    Re: Thai COVID-19 vaccine acquisitions

    Thailand is in a right mess over Covid. If the government had been at the front of the vaccine queue, there's a very good chance that only one tourist season would have been lost, yet now they just keep saying that tourism doesn't really matter to the Thai economy, which everyone knows is BS - there's no obvious plan to get it back up to speed in time for the autumn.

    Unless government changes tack pronto, the next season will be almost as bad.

    The upside though is that although things are grim in the UK right now, the fact that no-one gets it twice, and vaccinations are being rolled out for those at mortal peril; does mean that we are likely to be effectively post-Covid within a few months now, as will most other nations.

    But the LoS will still be agonising over it when others have got back to normal, something that is likely to play out both on the exchange rate and the price of tourist related real estate.

    - This autumn might see the great Thai fire sale take place..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old git View Post
    Thailand is in a right mess over Covid. If the government had been at the front of the vaccine queue, there's a very good chance that only one tourist season would have been lost ...
    Perhaps you should have a look at yesterday’s Guardian (not a recommendation you’ll often hear from me). A number of countries with a low incidence of COVID-19 infections during 2020 have deliberately chosen to delay vaccination programmes so as to see if any significant “negative events” occur with those who have been vaccinated. While it’s always difficult to determine Thai government policy on any given day, that may well represent the thinking behind their failure to follow your advice. As I recall Taiwan, Korea, Japan and Australia were mentioned.

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    "Perhaps you should have a look at yesterday’s Guardian (not a recommendation you’ll often hear from me). A number of countries with a low incidence of COVID-19 infections during 2020 have deliberately chosen to delay vaccination programmes so as to see if any significant “negative events” occur with those who have been vaccinated. While it’s always difficult to determine Thai government policy on any given day, that may well represent the thinking behind their failure to follow your advice. As I recall Taiwan, Korea, Japan and Australia were mentioned."

    Some of the vaccine methodology is very novel. Given the short timespan of the trials, vaccinating children and those of child bearing age who are at negligible risk from the bug itself would seem reckless, but using it to protect those who are in mortal danger is a no-brainer.

    By vaccinating the very old and older people with health issues, the death risk can be neutralised, and the risk of needing hospital treatment greatly reduced. That much done, a country can say: "OK - let's get this over with.."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old git View Post
    Some of the vaccine methodology is very novel. Given the short timespan of the trials, vaccinating children and those of child bearing age who are at negligible risk from the bug itself would seem reckless, but using it to protect those who are in mortal danger is a no-brainer.

    By vaccinating the very old and older people with health issues, the death risk can be neutralised, and the risk of needing hospital treatment greatly reduced. That much done, a country can say: "OK - let's get this over with.."
    I’ll pass your advice on to the governments of those countries.

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    Re: Thai COVID-19 vaccine acquisitions

    Chinese vaccine???? I would not want it....who even knows does it work???? anyone know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueskytoday View Post
    Chinese vaccine???? I would not want it....who even knows does it work???? anyone know
    There’s more than one and there are unofficial test results from several countries. There was a BBC report at the end of last year -
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-55212787

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