Russian COVID vaccine - published results

[Khor tose]

Vaccination by EpiVacCorona - second Russian vaccine just started yesterday in Russia. EpiVacCorona is "old fashioned" vaccine from killed viruses, is made by "Vector" institute in Siberia. It brings lower level of immunity to users, but is more "soft" so it is safe to use for pregnant and for seniors.

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If they start selling this on-line, let me know. In the meantime, here is a great site for sputnik V.
https://sputnikvaccine.com

Congratulations to Russian medicine for being first out and maybe the best. Now would you please quit hacking our Federal Departments>

[Moses]

Now would you please quit hacking our Federal Departments>

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Why?
Every country does espionage. Do you forgot scandal when Germany found what ANS listens Merkel? US hasn't monopoly for hacking. It is multi-polar world, you know. Bye-bye "Uncle Sam" and your monopoly, thank you mr. Snowden

By the way: in 2009 Putin offered to US agreement for to fight together with hackers around the World, Obama declined it. Now what are you waiting for ?

One more thing: do you know why White House had plan to announce sanctions against Russia at past Friday but suddenly dropped plan? They finally found, what hacker isn't Russian (in meaning "from Russia"). Google Andrey Turchin. https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdwa/pr...piracy-hacking

[StevieWonders]

Every country does espionage. Do you forgot scandal when Germany found what ANS listens Merkel? US hasn't monopoly for hacking. It is multi-polar world, you know.

The only known “hack” by a US or US-friendly agency was the Stuxnet computer virus planted by Israel (it’s always been assumed) in Iran’s nuclear bomb-making facilities. Countries that can do it all the time we must assume.

[Moses]

The only known “hack” by a US or US-friendly agency was the Stuxnet computer virus planted by Israel (it’s always been assumed) in Iran’s nuclear bomb-making facilities. Countries that can do it all the time we must assume.

Are you serious?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-24690055 US bugged Merkel's phone from 2002 until 2013
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-24670642 Italy data 'targeted in UK-US spy operation'
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...nes-espionage/ american sniffing on communication lines
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...97E17P20130815 Edward Snowden began downloading documents describing the U.S. government’s electronic spying programs while he was working for Dell

Just fast check of "only known" shows what "only known" are quite more facts...

[StevieWonders]

I was thinking more in terms of “hostile and harmful” - you know, SOP for your chums.

[Moses]

I was thinking more in terms of “hostile and harmful” - you know, SOP for your chums.

Oh, uh, yeah... "friendly American espionage" and "hostile Russian espionage"? Sure-sure... by the way: what's more looks like betray - espionage from long-time-competitor or espionage from friend?

[StevieWonders]

Oh, uh, yeah... "friendly American espionage" and "hostile Russian espionage"? Sure-sure... by the way: what's more looks like betray - espionage from long-time-competitor or espionage from friend?

What do your talking points suggest?

[Moses]

What do your talking points suggest?

They suggest to read less propaganda and to start to think by own brain.

Countries without own intelligence service does not exists (while we are talking about countries of normal size, not about island with 200 citizens). Intelligence service what defecates by roses does not exists. Poisoning, torturing, killing, bribing, hacking - typical methods of any intelligence and counterintelligence service.

Complaining on results of foreign I.S. shows only one - own counterintelligence service works bad and opponent got result instead to be founded and locked in prison for exchange to own agents who failed in opponent's country.

[StevieWonders]

Complaining on results of foreign I.S. shows only one - own counterintelligence service works bad and opponent got result instead to be founded and locked in prison for exchange to own agents who failed in opponent's country.

I hadn’t thought of it like that before.

[Moses]

Today I got second shot.

My impressions about process: at time of the first shot clinic had 2 "conveyors" for to process vaccination: fill papers with nurse - checkup with doctor - injection with nurse - waiting 30 min under surveillance of nurse in big room in case of any allergy. Today they had already 5 "conveyors" - 5 separated paralleled processes.

As per nurse all time-slots for first shot on all 5 lines were taken for today and for 10 days forward from today (here you can choose any day to visit doctor in his schedule at next 14 days if doctor has vacant time slot, we do it via phone application where you can make appointment to your therapist, surgeon, ophthalmologist, urologist, doctor "mouth, nose and ears", also appointment for injections, massage, and other simple procedures) .

In line for second shot were just few persons. Also some papers, then check up, then injections. Nothing new, all took 15 min + 30 min of mandatory waiting under supervising of nurse after shot. Just vial with vaccine is red at this time (vial for first shot is blue).

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