Russian COVID vaccine - published results

[Moses]

It was dear Oscar, wasn’t it, who wrote of those who know the price of everything.

It was Reuters in different news.

[Moses]

Curious to be adding as news the "first results" of 92% directly below a post which announced exactly the same thing 11 days previously! Too busy chasing Moses around the board to notice. Do keep up!

SW published his post separately, it was me who merged 2 similar posts into one thread.

[goji]

About prices:

Moderna $37 per shot of 2
Pfizer $19.5 per shot of 2
Oxford (manufactured in India) $6.74 per shot of 2
Sputnik $5 per shot of 2

All of those prices will work out cheaper than the economic support measures in many countries.

As for the case numbers in the trials, I read somewhere that Russia gave 75% of the trial population the vaccine and 25% the placebo. If correct, it's quite a sensible move, since the placebo group is just a reference to compare the number of infections etc, whilst they get a larger sample size of people to check side effects on.
This would also mean fewer infections, although it doesn't account for all of the difference to the 2 trials announced by the American companies.

[StevieWonders]

All of those prices will work out cheaper than the economic support measures in many countries.

As for the case numbers in the trials, I read somewhere that Russia gave 75% of the trial population the vaccine and 25% the placebo. If correct, it's quite a sensible move, since the placebo group is just a reference to compare the number of infections etc, whilst they get a larger sample size of people to check side effects on.
This would also mean fewer infections, although it doesn't account for all of the difference to the 2 trials announced by the American companies.

My hope is that as many people as possible get vaccinated as quickly as possible so that those who are more cautious can be more certain that any downsides have come to light (especially before I am vaccinated myself).

[StevieWonders]

Curious to be adding as news the "first results" of 92% directly below a post which announced exactly the same thing 11 days previously! Too busy chasing Moses around the board to notice. Do keep up!

Novichok is always at the forefront of many minds whenever Russia’s undoubted skills in drugs are mentioned.

[latintopxxx]

stevie u r such a hero...its people like u we need to build a nation.....

[Moses]

Novichok is always at the forefront of many minds whenever Russia’s undoubted skills in drugs are mentioned.

Do you want to push me by this sentence to express my sorry to brainwashed?

News.
Vaccination will starts at Dec 5 in Moscow. There are 70 vaccination points on the base of state clinics in the city. Everyone may apply for free vaccination via official site of Moscow https://www.mos.ru/city/projects/covid-19/privivka/ (rus.lang) limitations: 16-60 years, no sickness. There will be check up with doctor before to make injection. Mandatory 30 min after-injection-observation within clinic. Older people will be vaccinated by social services (every elder here has social worker for care) at their homes, starting from January.

At first few weeks preferences will have doctors (and other medical staff) and teachers (and other school staff).

[goji]

Everyone may apply for free vaccination via official site of Moscow https://www.mos.ru/city/projects/covid-19/privivka/ (rus.lang) limitations: 16-60 years

An interesting policy difference to the UK, where the vaccine will be prioritized as below (in order of priority).

Residents in a care home for older adults and their carers
All those 80 years of age and over; frontline health and social care workers
All those 75 years of age and over
All those 70 years of age and over; clinically extremely vulnerable individuals
All those 65 years of age and over
All individuals aged 16 years to 64 years with underlying health conditions which put them at higher risk of serious disease and mortality
All those 60 years of age and over
All those 55 years of age and over
All those 50 years of age and over

[Moses]

An interesting policy difference to the UK, where the vaccine will be prioritized as below (in order of priority).

Residents in a care home for older adults and their carers
All those 80 years of age and over; frontline health and social care workers
All those 75 years of age and over
All those 70 years of age and over; clinically extremely vulnerable individuals
All those 65 years of age and over
All individuals aged 16 years to 64 years with underlying health conditions which put them at higher risk of serious disease and mortality
All those 60 years of age and over
All those 55 years of age and over
All those 50 years of age and over

Reason of difference is: it is not state vaccination. It is city's vaccination - Moscow own few pharma-companies and huge network of clinics (over 750) + network of hospitals.

State's vaccination will starts from January. Here almost not exists care homes for older - they are living in own homes and social workers visits them at homes, it is free service. The only elders who are living in care homes - these who can't walk themself. All elders are under patronage of Ministry of social protection and care and this ministry will provide vaccination program for them.

[Brad the Impala]

Reason of difference is: it is not state vaccination. It is city's vaccination - Moscow own few pharma-companies and huge network of clinics (over 750) + network of hospitals.

It's still reverse priorities.One country starts by vaccinating the most vulnerable, the other starts with the most healthy and least vulnerable.