Russian COVID vaccine - published results

[StevieWonders]

About vector vaccine. What do you want to test there? This vector is 10+ years tested. On the base of exactly this vector Russia manufactures vaccines against Ebola, SARS and Zika.

Liberal democracies are cautious about mass vaccination with new drugs because if it fails they're likely to be voted out at the next election. Putin has no such constraint and can happily sacrifice as many of his fellow Russians as he likes, with impunity.

[cdnmatt]

About vector vaccine. What do you want to test there? This vector is 10+ years tested.

"vector" isn't a vaccine. It's a methodology to make vaccines.

[Moses]

Liberal democracies are cautious about mass vaccination with new drugs because if it fails they're likely to be voted out at the next election. Putin has no such constraint and can happily sacrifice as many of his fellow Russians as he likes, with impunity.

Well, here is no Zika, SARS or Ebola, so it isn't about mass vaccination here. WHO approved vaccines for to use in Africa.

[Moses]

"vector" isn't a vaccine. It's a methodology to make vaccines.

Oh, sorry, sorry, Matt, for stupid CDC of US.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-1...ne-basics.html

[StevieWonders]

Well, here is no Zika, SARS or Ebola, so it isn't about mass vaccination here. WHO approved vaccines for to use in Africa.

But there is COVID-19 and there is Sputnik V which hasn’t passed Western-standard tests - liberal democracies won’t approve it for use on their citizens for the reason I gave.

[Moses]

But there is COVID-19 and there is Sputnik V which hasn’t passed Western-standard tests - liberal democracies won’t approve it for use on their citizens for the reason I gave.

It's funny, but no one vaccine "is passed Western standard tests" yet. About approval we will see in few weeks.

[Moses]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN2AK07H

Russia just registered third vaccine - CoviVac. It is "old fashioned" vaccine from inactivated virion without possibility to replicate. Developer - Chumakov institute, known by its polio vaccine.

Large scale trial lasts from September'20.

CoviVac will induce shorter lasting immunity against COVID than Sputnik or Moderna or Oxford. The main advantages of that vaccines are: it should be softer after injection and may be used for 80+ patients, and, most important - it may be injected as many times as need and will work fine every time and each time will boost immunity. It is possible "to renew" immunity every 6 months (for example) and add immunity against new variations.

[StevieWonders]

One thing I read recently, Moses, is Russian advice about avoiding alcohol at vaccination time. Anna Popova from the Russian Federal Service for Surveillance on Human Wellbeing said to quit alcohol 2 weeks before the first vaccination shot and abstain until 3 weeks after the booster shot. Alexander Ginsburg who helped develop Sputnik V said drinking alcohol after getting vaccinated can impair the immune response and could even render the vaccine ineffective

New Scientist magazine 13 February 2021, page 9

[Moses]

One thing I read recently, Moses, is Russian advice about avoiding alcohol at vaccination time. Anna Popova from the Russian Federal Service for Surveillance on Human Wellbeing said to quit alcohol 2 weeks before the first vaccination shot and abstain until 3 weeks after the booster shot. Alexander Ginsburg who helped develop Sputnik V said drinking alcohol after getting vaccinated can impair the immune response and could even render the vaccine ineffective

New Scientist magazine 13 February 2021, page 9

Here are a lot of people who wants to be in news. Everyone tells "something" "from the middle finger". In official leaflet what they give to people and on official sites is noted "24 hours before injection and 72 hours after injection"

[StevieWonders]

Everyone tells "something" "from the middle finger".

One encounters it in many places.