Go-go bars v the apps

[Armando]

One more point, I think the "New Pattaya" in any case will be very different from our nostalgic reminisces. I think the "New Pattaya" will be even more technologically enabled (the "apps" that we know today are still very crude IMHO) and most of the visible sleaze will have been erased (for all the reasons which have been discussed on this forum). The reason I am optimistic is that Thais in general are fun loving, much more relaxed about sex than the rest of the "Victorian" world, and also strangely entrepreneurial.

Seriously, what is there left for Pattaya if you get rid of the sleaze? Don't most gay visitors go there for precisely that? They want to see and be titllated by the boys in the bar and get to know them a little before they decide to off them. If dependance on the apps becomes the norm, other parts of the country could become as attractive, if not more so.

Then as more and more boys take to the apps, doesn't the sex tourist run the risk of more and more boys putting up photos and profiles that make them seem wonderfully appealing. How does the sex tourist of a 7 day visit react when after that knock on the door the boy turn out to be 15 years older and several kgs heavier? Once is maybe understandable. If that happens more often a vacation in Pattaya becomes a dog.

Take technology a bit further. Will we eventually just see holograms of the boys in skimpy pants on stage, pick a number and he miraculously turns up at our hotel?

Since western sex arrived, Pattaya has always existed because it offers 'live' girls and boys and sleaze. Get rid of the 'live' element and it dies. The Mayor can then spend billions more in his quest to make it a family destination.

[Dodger]

How does the sex tourist of a 7 day visit react when after that knock on the door the boy turn out to be 15 years older and several kgs heavier? Once is maybe understandable. If that happens more often a vacation in Pattaya becomes a dog.

If a sex tourist is limited to only 7 days, he'd be better off spending them in the boy bars. Meet a guy, or two, or three, that you like, and just enjoy yourself. Fiddling around with the apps is better suited for those on longer holiday stays.

No, the boy bars will not be gone when you return, Not as many as before...but certainly enough to keep you very busy during your one week holiday. I have a few expat friends over here who have "boy fun" every night of the week, and they don't even know how to use the apps.

[goji]

If a sex tourist is limited to only 7 days, he'd be better off spending them in the boy bars. Meet a guy, or two, or three, that you like, and just enjoy yourself. Fiddling around with the apps is better suited for those on longer holiday stays.

Flying from Europe, I can't imagine ever staying 7 days. My first ever trip was just over 2 weeks and as I thought I'd arrived in paradise, it's been at least 28 days after that.

A good boy bar can be more fun, for some of the reasons listed by Arsenal.
However, if you ask the right questions & define the terms properly, the odds of getting great service are higher with the phone apps.

How does the sex tourist of a 7 day visit react when after that knock on the door the boy turn out to be 15 years older and several kgs heavier? Once is maybe understandable. If that happens more often a vacation in Pattaya becomes a dog.

Answer:
1 Check EVERY photo and ask for more if you can't check his body shape.
2 BEFORE meeting, I hope the tourist has asked the boy for a CURRENT photo, then made it clear that the boy must look "exactly like the photo or we don't meet". Make sure he understands & agrees.
3 Meet the boy away from the hotel. If he's 15 years older and overweight, say goodbye. As he's the one responsible for the deception, give him 0 baht. Of course, this is almost certainly not going to happen, as most of the lads attempting to pull a fast one have stopped the conversation after point 2.

[Dodger]

1 Check EVERY photo and ask for more if you can't check his body shape.
2 BEFORE meeting, I hope the tourist has asked the boy for a CURRENT photo, then made it clear that the boy must look "exactly like the photo or we don't meet". Make sure he understands & agrees.
3 Meet the boy away from the hotel. If he's 15 years older and overweight, say goodbye. As he's the one responsible for the deception, give him 0 baht. Of course, this is almost certainly not going to happen, as most of the lads attempting to pull a fast one have stopped the conversation after point 2.

God...it sounds like you're buying a used car on Craig's List.

[siscu58]

God...it sounds like you're buying a used car on Craig's List.

It is not a car but it is undoubtedly used.

[goji]

God...it sounds like you're buying a used car on Craig's List.

An interesting analogy. Over a long period, I've also learnt what to check when buying a used car, so I get much better results now than 30 years ago. The retirement fund is also significantly larger as a result of not putting a new car on the drive every year.

With boys on the apps, I can either make the checks and get good results or forget the checks and get the occasional dud who's about 10kg heavier or doesn't actually do much in bed.
Admittedly it's much more fun walking into a bar, finding a boy that's invited himself to sit naked on my lap and leaving shortly afterwards.