No End In Sight!

[arsenal]

"One requirement is that they are required to stay in "organisational quarantine" facilities and such facilities must meet disease control standards."

Quite a big requirement and I doubt the 'control standards'allow for you to nip off the Nice Boys and come back with a lean, tanned, sparkly eyed boy to have hot action with.

[StevieWonders]

Some lessons the Thai officials will be learning:
1 After 2 months of few/no new cases combined with closed borders, Vietnam is now dealing with a new outbreak
2 After negative tests before boarding followed by negative tests on arrival, two recent arrivals from Europe have now tested positive

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/two-for...in-quarantine/

Rethink any Thai holiday plans you may be considering

[goji]

Some lessons the Thai officials will be learning:
1 After 2 months of few/no new cases combined with closed borders, Vietnam is now dealing with a new outbreak
2 After negative tests before boarding followed by negative tests on arrival, two recent arrivals from Europe have now tested positive

The Vietnam experience suggests that all these strict controls are doing is kicking the can down the road.
Now kicking the can down the road might make sense if there's a vaccine in 6 months.

If there isn't a vaccine for 2~3 years, countries will have to wake up and just start getting on with it. The alternative of keeping large parts of the Thai economy closed, with next to no support for the people unemployed is just going to lead to huge protests and pressure for the government to change.

[Dodger]

"One requirement is that they are required to stay in "organisational quarantine" facilities and such facilities must meet disease control standards."

Quite a big requirement and I doubt the 'control standards'allow for you to nip off the Nice Boys and come back with a lean, tanned, sparkly eyed boy to have hot action with.

According to the Pattaya Mail article inked below there are 4 types of quarantine, each one pertaining to the type of traveler entering the Kingdom.

Local Quarantine (Hotel) - Home (self) Quarantine - Organizational Quarantine (migrant workers) - Hospital Quarantine (medical tourists).

If in fact Elite Visa holders are permitted to enter the Kingdom as the Bangkok Post article stated, one could assume that either Local (Hotel) or Home Quarantine would apply.

The Bangkok Post article was incomplete and misleading by not explaining this.

If a farang can afford a million baht for Elite passage - he probably has enough money to "nip off" as much as he wants.

https://www.pattayamail.com/thailand...sclosed-306189

[arsenal]

At some point in the probably not too distant future we're going to have a vaccine that pretty much everyone agrees, works.

And then what? Will the other approx 149 companies be given the recipe in a sort of modern Volvo seat belt moment or will they price gouge. It will be interesting.

[Zebedee]

The Vietnam experience suggests that all these strict controls are doing is kicking the can down the road.
Now kicking the can down the road might make sense if there's a vaccine in 6 months.

If there isn't a vaccine for 2~3 years, countries will have to wake up and just start getting on with it. The alternative of keeping large parts of the Thai economy closed, with next to no support for the people unemployed is just going to lead to huge protests and pressure for the government to change.

“Every society is three meals away from chaos”

― Vladimir Lenin

[Dodger]

At some point in the probably not too distant future we're going to have a vaccine that pretty much everyone agrees, works.

And then what? Will the other approx 149 companies be given the recipe in a sort of modern Volvo seat belt moment or will they price gouge. It will be interesting.

According to what we've been reading in the news for the past 6 months, of the 184 countries effected by the virus, many, including the U.S., UK, China, Russia, Australia, Japan, Thailand, and others, have been partnering with pharmaceutical companies and independent labs so they can have a supply of the vaccine (or vaccines) on-hand when they are approved. Purchases are being made already, even before testing is completed for this very reason.

I could be wrong, but I really don't think people, especially those in the larger countries, have to worry about a long waiting line, because it's only in the best interest of each country to get as many of their citizens vaccinated as soon as possible to stop their economies from crashing. Governments are desperate for the vaccine. Once the "recipe" (or recipes) are approved there will be many large manufacturing companies around the world mass producing the vaccine - not just a single company.

It was reported in the news last night that Russian plans to begin mass vaccinations as early as October. How they shortened the lead-time involved with the testing is anyone's guess.

[arsenal]

This could herald the start of something new. A stamp in your passport to say you've been vaccinated. Cool.

However don't be surprised if geo politics sticks it's nose in. Not hard to imagine Trumpety Trump saying America doesn't recognise the vaccine from China/Russia etc as being effective and refusing entry to those who have it.

[Moses]

It was reported in the news last night that Russian plans to begin mass vaccinations as early as October. How they shortened the lead-time involved with the testing is anyone's guess.

Latest updates in local news - they will start vaccination from the end of August| start of September.

[Smiles]

" ... Governments are desperate for the vaccine. Once the "recipe" (or recipes) are approved there will be many large manufacturing companies around the world mass producing the vaccine - not just a single company ... "

Unfortunately there is a huge elephant in the room regarding vaccines in general.
In the United States 43% say that they would not take the vaccine when arrived, and, nor would not let their kids be vaccinated as well.
There is something existentially very wrong with the USA overall: the incredible rising of the crazed Right-Wingers ~~ pushed further into the dark by the extreme nutter Trump.
Chances are that ghastly Trump will be kicked out of the White House in November, but the 43% will not let go of this particular deadly conspiracy.


https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-...d-vaccine.html