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Thread: The China virus: calling a spade a spade

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    Re: The China virus: calling a spade a spade

    Quote Originally Posted by arsenal View Post
    Surfcrest wrote.
    "There’s very little that happened in China that wasn’t repeated elsewhere,"

    That was what I was referring to.

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    Re: The China virus: calling a spade a spade


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    Re: The China virus: calling a spade a spade

    The Guardian changes from untrustworthy to credible when it suits your point!

    Quote Originally Posted by goji View Post

    It's pretty damn difficult to trust the Guardian

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    Re: The China virus: calling a spade a spade

    WHO drfinitely neds reforming...look whos at the head...cant speak english (then neither can orange baby)..not even a medical doctor...member of a marxist leftist political party that has ruled his country with an iron fist...a country that owes CHINA gazzillions...explains a lot hey...

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    Re: The China virus: calling a spade a spade

    Quote Originally Posted by Brad the Impala View Post
    The Guardian changes from untrustworthy to credible when it suits your point!
    Whilst the reporting in the Guardian can be misleading, I don't think they go quite as far as fabricating a story by the Aussie PM.

    Examples where I do see bias and misleading reporting are:

    1 EU ventilator procurement scheme. Constantly criticizing the UK government for not joining, without ever acknowledging that the UK has not been short of ventilators, whilst parts of the EU were.

    2 EU PPE procurement scheme. Constantly criticizing the UK government over not joining it as part of their criticism of PPE shortages. Without checking if the UK government had joined (it has). And without checking it the EU PPE scheme has delivered an PPE. Earlier in the week, the EU scheme had not delivered any PPE.
    Even the Guardian quietly acknowledged that the EU scheme is due to deliver it's first PPE "imminently". Which is their way of saying nothing is yet delivered!
    That was snuck in 2/3rds of the way through an article.
    Had the EU scheme actually delivered PPE, it would have been another Guardian headline topic, critical of the government.

    3 When comparing the UK death rate with other countries, they are swift to remind everyone that whilst the US death count is higher, the per capita rate is lower than the UK.
    When comparing with EU countries with smaller populations, they don't make such comments. They avoid mentioning places like Belgium with a significantly higher death rate per capita than the UK. They compare with Germany frequently, whilst not comparing with Italy, Switzerland, Spain, France, The Netherlands, Belgium and Sweden, which are all in the same ballpark as the UK for death rate per capita (most worse, some a tad better).
    The whole reporting ethos seems designed to make the UK government look as bad as possible.

    Also, the Guardian has failed to go and do any proper investigative journalism to try and find out why Germany is doing better than other EU countries.
    Expect The Guardian to continue to give zero credit to the healthcare structure in Germany, which is a mixture of public-private, rather than a socialist monopoly. A quality newspaper would go and examine the system with an open mind.


    Politicians might not be up to much, but in this crisis, Journalists are the one group of people who make politicians look good.

    Hopefully we can get back on topic soon.

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    Re: The China virus: calling a spade a spade

    Still off topic I'm afraid Goji.
    The Guardian is the best of the best and the worst of the worst.
    The best.
    Travel section.
    Food section in general and Jay Raynor in particular.
    Television and movie reviews.
    Simon Jenkins
    It's free.
    They reported on Chinese abuses for many years until they were blocked.
    (So did the BBC actually)

    The worst.
    Most of their whining columnists in general and Poly Toynbee and Owen Jones in particular.

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