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    Swampy very busy even at 3.00am. No screening that I saw and direct flights from China given no special treatment. Business as usual.
    That's not very reassuring, arsenal, given the following report in The Times. The report reads like scenes from a disaster movie, not real life.

    Coronavirus crisis: Panic and fear inside Wuhan lock down

    Crystal Reid, Wuhan
    January 24 2020, 9:00am, The Times

    Workers use infrared thermometers to check the temperature of passengers arriving by train.

    It took less than 12 hours to shake Alan Laine’s faith that Beijing had the coronavirus outbreak under control.

    The 57-year-old British expat who has taught physics in international schools in Wuhan for 20 years was shocked at how fast the Communist authorities isolated an entire city overnight. “It happened so quickly and without warning. [It] has caused panic and suggests it’s more serious than we know,” he said.

    The 11 million residents of Wuhan, birthplace of the virus that has already killed 25 people according to official numbers, went to bed on Wednesday unaware that hundreds of armed soldiers were about to surround the airport and railway station and set up checkpoints to seal the city from the outside world.

    The authorities announced the lockdown in the middle of the night as families lay sleeping. They awoke to discover that all trains were cancelled, all flights grounded and all roads out of the city were blocked by 10am.

    Those who rose early rushed to leave before the deadline. Those who stayed descended on supermarkets to strip shelves bare of everything from face masks to vegetables, with fights breaking out over the last bag of rice or final carton of milk.

    The move to quarantine a city of this size is unprecedented in the modern history of epidemics. Yesterday Beijing announced that a further nine cities — Huanggang, Ezhou, Chibi, Xiantao, Zhejiang, Qianjiang, Huangshi, Enshi and Xianning — would face the same fate, albeit to varying degrees.

    By mid-morning in Wuhan trucks were roaming the streets spraying disinfectant into every corner while masked lines of soldiers stood outside the entrances of transport hubs. All pedestrians were ordered by police to wear face masks.

    “We are feeling as though it is the end of the world,” one Wuhan resident said on China’s Weibo social media site, expressing concerns about shortages of food and cleaning products. Shi Chengwei, a local driver, said: “The new pneumonia is our new common enemy.”

    The transformation in the space of a day was extraordinary. On Wednesday, on the eve of the lockdown, Wuhan felt like a ghost town. Except for a few masked residents making the last run to the shops before the official start of the lunar new year festivities, there was little sense of danger or urgency. At the main train station families and migrant workers had jostled with their luggage, embarking on the annual mass exodus to their home towns. The local government had only advised against unnecessary travel in and out of the city. Twelve hours later everything changed.

    Even Mr Laine — who lived in Wuhan during the Sars outbreak in 2003 that left 774 dead across Asia — had not believed that the government would lock down the city. “This won’t be anything like that,” he had told The Times in an earlier discussion about the potentially fatal respiratory infection that was first detected in Wuhan on December 31. “You’re more likely to die crossing the road.”

    Most of the 830 confirmed cases across China and 23 of the 25 deaths happened in Hubei, the central province in which Wuhan is located. However, today it was announced that a second person had died outside the virus epicentre, 1,200 miles from Wuhan in the northern province of Heilongjiang, close to the Russian border. Other cases have been reported in the United States, Japan, South Korea, Thailand, Hong Kong and Macau but most of these can be traced back to Wuhan.

    A private messaging group for expats in the city is busy. Every minute videos, official updates and rumours are circulated across the group. Some make light of their predicament with memes of tin-hat wearers; others are not in a joking mood. “We’re in fear for our lives here!” remarks one woman in response to another member’s cheerful post about being refunded her £30 cancelled train ticket.

    Adam Kamradt-Scott, a global health specialist at Sydney University, has been monitoring the spread of the virus. While he applauds the Chinese government for taking “unusual and rare” measures to quell the spread of the infection, he is worried that it is too little too late. “If the virus is already largely contained to Wuhan, this is a good public health measure to try to prevent and slow down the spread, particularly with the mass migration at Chinese new year. If the virus is already out of the bag and seeing community transmission in other cities, however, it’s effectively pointless and giving a false sense of security.”

    Hours before the lockdown there were no extra screening measures at the airport. Now no one can even enter the terminal, let alone leave the city.

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    A dose of reality. SARS killed under 800 worldwide. Less than die as a result of the insane idiocy that is Songkran.

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    It's just the latest scare. The world won't end just yet.
    And Sunne will be open for another week (or so).

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    An astonishing number of passengers at the airport yesterday as I made my way home sadly, were wearing masks. Predominantly Chinese and more young women than men. About 50% of the EVA staff too. I wonder how effective they are.
    Of course, face masks have been popular among young Asian women for a number of years... pre SARS, I'd guess. A sort of fashion accessory?

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    Quote Originally Posted by frequentfliers View Post
    Just announced suspect case in Belfast.
    Glad to report that that guy turned out to be all clear and not infected after all.

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    This is the latest news as reported in the Bangkok Post:

    China virus toll rises to 54 dead, more than 300 new cases

    published : 26 Jan 2020 at 07:46

    WUHAN: The number of confirmed deaths from a viral outbreak in China has risen to 54, with authorities in hard-hit Hubei province on Sunday reporting 13 more fatalities and 323 new cases.

    The latest numbers from Hubei, the epicentre of the contagion, would put the nationwide total of confirmed infections at 1,610, based on figures previously released by the central government.

    President Xi Jinping warned Saturday that China faced a "grave situation" as authorities raced to contain a respiratory illness that has caused the widespread abandonment of Lunar New Year celebrations nationwide and overwhelmed health facilities in Hubei.

    The contagion remained centred on the Hubei provincial capital of Wuhan, which accounted for seven of the new deaths and 46 of the new confirmed cases, said the Hubei Health Commission.

    Wuhan and more than a dozen other cities in the province have been locked down in a rapidly expanding quarantine effort marked by transport shutdowns and other restrictions on movement.

    • China virus toll jumps to 25 dead with 830 confirmed cases: govt
    • China warns virus could mutate and spread as death toll rises
    • Gloomy holiday for hunkered-down China as virus toll jumps

    The previously unknown virus has caused global concern because of its similarity to the SARS (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome) pathogen, which killed hundreds across mainland China and Hong Kong in 2002-2003.

    It also has struck at possibly the worst time for China, when hundreds of millions of people are travelling across the country or overseas to celebrate the Lunar New Year holiday, China's most important festival.

    Hundreds of military doctors have been sent to Hubei and authorities are rushing to build a pair of field hospitals to deal with the crisis as patients swamp local medical facilities.

    The virus has spread nationwide in China and cases have been reported in several other countries as far away as the United States, France and Australia.
    https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/18...cases#cxrecs_s

    Also from the Bangkok Post:

    Suvarnabhumi virus screening limited

    Airport authorities await advice from China on whether to screen all arrivals, as Beijing bans all group tours

    published : 25 Jan 2020 at 20:33
    updated: 25 Jan 2020 at 21:25

    An official uses a thermal camera at the arrivals hall of Suvarnabhumi Airport as a measure to prevent the spread of coronavirus.

    Officials at Suvarnabhumi Airport say they are awaiting more information from Chinese authorities before deciding whether to expand screening of passengers arriving from China to try to detect the new coronavirus that is causing worldwide concern.

    China, meanwhile, announced late Saturday that all group tours from the country would be halted starting from Monday in an attempt to contain the spread of the virus.

    President Xi Jinping warned that the country was facing a “grave situation” given the “accelerating spread” of the virus.

    Thailand has seven confirmed cases in the outbreak, which began in the central Chinese city of Wuhan. Some 41 people have died in China and more than 1,300 have been infected globally, most of them in China.

    Authorities at Suvarnabhumi have begun temperature scans on passengers arriving from Guangzhou and Wuhan, but not all Chinese cities. Flights from Wuhan have been cancelled because it is under quarantine.

    • Officials watching over sub in Wuhan 'safe from virus'
    • Hong Kong declares virus 'emergency'
    • Dangerous virus mutes China’s ‘happiest day’

    “We will perform a virus scan if the Chinese government announces to watch out for other cities apart from Wuhan and Guangzhou,” general manager Suthirawat Suwannawat told reporters on Saturday.

    China is Thailand’s biggest source of tourists, sending nearly 11 million to the country last year.
    As concern grows locally over the possibility of a bigger outbreak, some social media users have accused the government of caring more about the money from Chinese tourists arriving during the Lunar New Year holiday than public health.

    “Our country can control the situation well. We’ve had patients who are being treated and are improving, many have also gone home,” Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul told reporters.

    Government agencies including the health, tourism and transport ministries are due to meet on Sunday to come up with protective measures to prevent the spread of the virus.

    The virus outbreak has coincided with the Lunar New year, typically a time when hundreds of millions of Chinese travel domestically and abroad. However, authorities have placed several cities including Wuhan on complete lockdown.

    Many New Year celebrations have been cancelled and other public gatherings are also being discouraged or banned.
    Among other developments on Saturday, Hong Kong declared an “emergency” — its highest public warning level — and cancelled official Lunar New Year celebrations. Shanghai closed its cinemas and the Starbucks coffee chain she its door in cities across hard-hit Hubei province.

    In Beijing, authorities said they would stop all inter-provincial shuttle buses from Sunday in order to curb the spread of the virus, local media reported.

    The reports did not say when bus services will be resumed.
    https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand...mited#cxrecs_s

    And meanwhile, in the United Kingdom, The Sunday Times reported:

    Coronavirus alert: NHS staff told how to handle bodies

    The advice for hospitals comes as the Foreign Office is arranging a charter flight to bring home 200 diplomats and other citizens from Wuhan

    NHS staff on high alert over a lethal new virus have been issued with instructions on handling bodies and told that victims may pose a “minor risk” even after they die.

    The guidance is in an 11-page dossier that was prepared for hospitals by Public Health England (PHE). It emerged as China warned that the spread of the virus was “accelerating” and the UK was poised to evacuate about 200 citizens from the Chinese city of Wuhan, the centre of the illness.

    GPs in the UK have been ordered to avoid examining suspected victims and told to keep them in closed rooms.

    All 31 people so far suspected by the NHS to have the virus have tested negative. However, officials are braced for the first positive case. One said the prospect was “highly likely”.

    More than 1,400 cases have been confirmed since a global outbreak began last month. Last night the death toll had climbed to 42. Australia and Malaysia have reported their first cases and Japan has identified a third.

    In the PHE guidance, NHS staff were told: “The act of moving a recently deceased patient onto a hospital trolley for transportation to the mortuary might be sufficient to expel small amounts of air from the lungs and thereby present a minor risk.

    “A body bag should be used for transferring the body and those handling the body at this point should use full PPE [personal protective equipment].”

    Staff who meet potential victims are told to wear “full-face visors”.

    The government says the risk to the UK population is “low”. But the dossier adds: “In the absence of effective drugs or a vaccine, control of this disease relies on the prompt identification, appropriate risk assessment, management and isolation of possible cases.”

    Last night Britain was preparing to fly hundreds of citizens out of the virus-stricken Chinese city of Wuhan, where 11 million residents are in effect under quarantine.

    The Foreign Office was understood to be arranging a charter flight to bring home UK citizens and diplomats. About 200 are understood to live in the city, which is the centre of a new coronavirus outbreak.

    In London, ministers were considering plans to screen arrivals at UK ports after the virus spread to 10 countries outside China. France is treating three cases in Paris and Bordeaux. China has warned that the spread of the virus was “accelerating”.

    Here, the government has declared the risk to the UK population as low. However, the official advice says: “In the absence of effective drugs or a vaccine, control of this disease relies on the prompt identification, appropriate risk assessment, management and isolation of possible cases, and the investigation and follow-up of close contacts to minimise potential onward transmission.”
    Medics have privately raised concerns that some of the guidance relies on the availability of beds in critical care wards as well as empty isolation rooms. They say the NHS is already dangerously overstretched and empty beds are a “luxury”.

    Duncan Selbie, chief executive of PHE, described the crisis as “a new and rapidly evolving situation”.

    Officials are in a race to trace about 2,000 people who have flown to the UK recently from Wuhan. The Department of Health said it was trying to find “as many passengers as we can” to check their health.

    The government’s chief medical officer, Professor Chris Whitty, said: “What we don’t know is how far it’s going to spread. That really is something we need to plan for all eventualities.”

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    I would not believe anything the Chinese govt says

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueskytoday View Post
    I would not believe anything the Chinese govt says
    do you believe any govt? maybe you even believe to politics?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    do you believe any govt? maybe you even believe to politics?
    Some governments are forced to be reasonably honest by the scrutiny of a free press. Leaders like Xi, Putin and Erdogan reduce press freedom, so they are not under such scrutiny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goji View Post
    Some governments are forced to be reasonably honest by the scrutiny of a free press.
    Most funny conclusion. Take a look at docs what CIA publishes year by year after removing "Secret" label. And compare with things what newspapers printed at days when these docs was created.

    Even now - just compare what Fox and CNN telling to people. Sometimes they tell opposite things.

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