Thai political discussion

[frequent]

In one thing you are right the whole political system in Thailand is corrupt and it doesn't matter if the elected comes from the elite or not and Taksin is certainly no exception .

The elite relies on military coups not elections

[BOY69]

The elite relies on military coups not elections

Maybe so but Taksin didn't want to make Thailand more democratic on the contrary he tried to weaken the monarchy and the military so he can gain absolute power , I do prefer the traditional authoritian Thai triangle army/ monarchy/parliament regime then absolute dictatorship disguised as democracy which Taksin wanted.

[Oliver2]

And, of course, it doesn't matter what the Thais want - which is why Thaksin was forced-out and the Red Shirts are in hiding. Let's face it, democracy is for us white folks.

[frequent]

Maybe so but Taksin didn't want to make Thailand more democratic on the contrary he tried to weaken the monarchy and the military so he can gain absolute power , I do prefer the traditional authoritian Thai triangle army/ monarchy/parliament regime then absolute dictatorship disguised as democracy which Taksin wanted.

Apart from the elite propaganda in the Bangkok Post and The Nation what are the sources of your information?

[BOY69]

And, of course, it doesn't matter what the Thais want - which is why Thaksin was forced-out and the Red Shirts are in hiding. Let's face it, democracy is for us white folks.

Exactly . Thailand was never a real democracy and never will be.

[frequent]

Exactly . Thailand was never a real democracy and never will be.

Is there any piece of elite propaganda you're not prepared to parrot? The elite believes that the peasantry is too stupid ever to sustain a democracy

[Oliver2]

Of course, we Marxists/Leninists/ Trotskyists/Socialists/ Chavistas/revolutionaries/terrorist and so on recognise the true "aristocrats" of Thailand; the hard-working farm workers of Isaan et al, earning a pittance for long hours under a hot sun to enable the generals and their cronies to buy even more Rolexes. Sadly, the "crats" part of "aristocrats" doesn't work for them. It's not just the poverty; the darker skins are a real set-back.

[BOY69]

Anyone who believes that Thaksin was in politics to help the poor and reduce inequality is naive beyond belief. You have only to look into the dealings between ShinCorp and Temasek and the changes in the law, instigated by Thaksin as PM, which made these dealings possible, to see what he was really about. He didn't even have the decency to delay the transaction by so much as a day to make it less obvious. His only concern was increasing his personal wealth and that of his family and cronies. Some of my more cynical Shan friends have pointed out that his visits to certain Shan Temples in Chiang Mai conveniently coincided with those of Khun Sa.

Excatly .his very few minor acts for the "poorer people" was just a haze to disguise his
actions to increasing his personal wealth and that of his family and cronies.

[Oliver2]

And it takes a white westerner to see what millions of Thais who live there and experience poverty on a daily basis fail to understand. The White Man's Burden is no longer to rule natives but to explain to them- very patiently- where they have gone wrong. How fortunate they are to have us to put them right. From thousands of miles away.

[frequent]

Excatly .his very few minor acts for the "poorer people" was just a haze to disguise his actions to increasing his personal wealth and that of his family and cronies.

Still nothing about your sources?