Yes, that's the one I was thinking of.Originally Posted by frequent
(Frequent, sorry but I think I may have inadvertently edited some of your OP above, as I clicked on Edit Post instead of Reply with Quote. I'll have to stop posting using my phone!)
No apologies needed - lonelywombat will be along shortly to insist I made it all up. I know I'm not supposed to use the phrase but I just can't help myself - so needy
The Hawker Chan in the Royal Garden Centre had closed when I was last there in February. A new one has opened in Terminus 21. P. likes it for a quick lunch. I don't. As I've said elsewhere, there are a staggering number of restaurants in the new shopping mall, only a few of which replicate those in Central. However, none came anywhere close to being "fine dining" as far as I could see.
The Chinese place in 2nd Road nearby used to be popular with its shark fin shop next door; nowadays it seems very quiet. I'm happy to see the demise of any establishment selling sharks' fins.
arsenal (March 29th, 2019)
Well. I'm glad that someone else was thinking it too, as whilst you're there are referring to the Mall Oliver in my time dining in the likes of the "famous" Cafe Des Ameis and all the rest of such places, short of having perhaps a clean / cleaner table cloth and a more expensive bill at the end of the meal then other options I've never really considered them "actual" fine dining establishments ( even thought THEY and Patts ex pats may like to think of them as such so they forget they're living in Pattaya for a short while ( understandable).
So maybe if you're out for western food and fancy some place better than some local Thai kitchen place then sure, why not if that's what you're looking for, but "fine dining" they ain't IMHO. As half time interspersed perhaps between some nice meat dishes ( and even thats 50/50 sometimes) you still can end up with some weird version of a veg dish or whatever etc that just simply doesn't work with the dish and all because someone in the kitchen just didn't know know how to prepare or serve it. Or as freaky mentioned above you perhaps order some "classic" dish only again to find it fucked up as they simply don't know ( or care) how it should actually be cooked or served or what the ingredients are that MUST be in it to give the dish it's name etc and that they simply can't just subsistute one of the dishes critical ingredients for some random other and then when you query what happened just reply "oh sorry, not have" etc.
With the only nod to "fine dining" then being your waiter may ( or may not) bring you some break, plus have been told to tuck their shirt in before serving you and there will be some manager hanging around like a bad smell waiting to write up a larger than should be bill for the "quality" of the food you actually received along with some vastly over priced but highly underrated wine added on to that perhaps. All IMHO opinion of course and I'm SURE others will disagree but for me when in Pattaya I generally avoid such places like the plague now just.
Where do you dine, Nirish guy, when in Pattaya?
Reminds me of a "Chicken Supreme" that I had in a high end western style restaurant in Havana. The only ingredient that the served dish had in common with the normal recipe was the chicken! When I queried it I was told proudly that it was "Cuban Chicken Supreme".
Cuban restaurants are truly among the world's worst, largely because of the very poor quality ingredients available to the kitchens. Add to that the insult of prices that are artificially inflated by enforced use of the tourist-only currency and the experience leaves - both figuratively and literally - a very bad taste in the mouth.
Anyone have any more suggestions re. my original query about "high end" Pattaya restaurants?
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Doesn't fine dining/gourmet cuisine serve a niche market and is therefore not meant to be "in abundance", certainly not in a sleazy beach town such as Pattaya?
I dont' "dine" when I'm in Pattaya - I eat - and just wherever the mood takes me, nowhere specific.
christianpfc (March 30th, 2019), frequent (March 30th, 2019)
Meaning of dine in English
dine
verb [ I ] UK /daɪn/ US /daɪn/ formal
to eat the main meal of the day, usually in the evening: Cambridge Dictionary
You should try some of the suggestions for dining as presented in this post.
Maybe you would change your mind concerning what is available?
Or you may wish to try Murphy's Irish Pub, 136/1, Moo 10, Soi Khao Noi, Pattaya, Chonburi. Their special is a large bowl of Beef Stew for only 195 Baht.
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