It is apps. There is no other explanation.Originally Posted by arsenal
It is sad, photo is not a real person, you do not see the guy move, his manners, photo is nearly useless, but that's where we are now.
It is apps. There is no other explanation.
It is sad, photo is not a real person, you do not see the guy move, his manners, photo is nearly useless, but that's where we are now.
Hi All
I post more on the BT forums, and Gay Thailand, but I was surprised to come across the thread here about Dusseldorf. It sounds great to me, but I hadn't even heard of the bars there - no one seems to have posted about it before - so I was thinking about starting a thread like this - to see if there were anymore hidden gems in Europe that I hadn't heard of. So thanks Blacktouch for starting!
Amsterdam and Prague sounded so good back in the day! I'm so sorry I missed it. Having said that, I've been to Escape in the last few years and absolutely loved it - especially during Pride Week - they had cute boys and shows every night. Gutted that its closed. And hopeful of its revival. Though the stories of Up&Down sound promising. Amsterdam, less good. I went to 21 as well and it was awful. Nothing there and my friend and I got charged 40 EUR for 2 vodkas. Would never go back there.
I've been to the bars in Berlin a couple of times, and to be honest I don't mind the guys being Arab/Romanian/Turkish - as long as they have a cute face, and a nice attitude, I'm easy. Though I'm definitely careful, as I've heard some bad stories. From the threads on this site, Hamburg and Dusseldorf sound like they have a similar set up, so I'm considering visiting these cities now.
Another place, not often mentioned on these boards is Milan. I've visited Afterline club in Milan several times - they have great gogo shows with hot guys (not available to take home) and there are a lot of Romanian guys who you can take to the darkroom downstairs. I've found it enjoyable if you are looking for something quick.
I've also been to Black and White in Madrid a couple of times, but found almost nothing there - and they were weekend nights! I don't think I will visit there again. But I've found the quality of guys online in both Madrid and Barcelona to be excellent.
Unfortunately the internet has taken over everything I'm afraid.
In the UK high street shops/stores are closing down, as more people are shopping online now.
Restaurants are suffering, as people are ordering food online more, from delivery Companies like "Just Eat", "Deliveroo" and "Uber Eats".
Mini cabs (taxi firms) are closing down, as Uber is online, and people not using the shop based taxi firms, where you phone and order a taxi. (In UK we say Cab).
Rent Bars are closing down all over the World, as MB's are using the apps to get business. They can stay at home, play computer games, search the net, relax in the comfort of their own home, without going to a bar and stand on a stage, or sit at a bar waiting for business.
The list goes on.
You're correct and the High Street stores at least have the ability to fight via their own online presence - yet they still close. Imagine how bad it must be for small Independent retailers who do not have the resources to even get near the first page of Google.
People want the cheapest and they want it now. They may say that they don't mind paying a little extra to support local business but it's like those who say "I'd gladly pay an extra 1p in the £ in my tax for the NHS" yet when any political party puts it in their manifesto they get hammered at the polls.
Only the property owners can do something about this by realising their rents are unrealistically high and reducing them.
I disagree. A distinct gay social scene is declining because at least in the inner cities there’s a greater social interaction between different sexualities and people seem more prepared to be accepting. You have only to see television soaps like that ghastly American series “Modern Family” to understand what is going on
You're correct about that to a degree (try snogging the face off your bf down your local pub in the way a str8 couple could) .
However, and with all due respect "greater social interaction" has absolutely nothing to do with rent bars.
Rent bars have very little to do with engaging in social intercourse and everything to do with engaging in quite another type of intercourse.
Also, I think more and more gay men are coming out, and not hiding their sexuality anymore. Whereas before men used to marry a women, but lead a double life. I'm sure this still goes on in this day an age, especially in Countries where being gay is very difficult? So when they live a double life, most use the rent scene to get to have their fun, and the choice of young cute guys!
More heterosexual venues are excepting more homosexual people and the old gay bars seem to be closing down completely because less people are attending them and the added fact that the owners of the properties are selling to property developers for large sums of money. Also the leases/rents are sometimes extremely high that these businesses are forced to close.
In my area of North London where I live, there were over ten gay venues one could go to, over a space of 4 miles, now all of these gay venues are all closed down. When you drive pass them, they have all been made in to expensive housing developments or trendy heterosexual bars.
Thank you boyfous, my aim is to make a listing of Rent Bars Experiences that are still operating in Europe?
Dusseldorf was ok. I enjoyed it. Feel free to read my report on my two visits back in June and October this year.
I've also been to Berlin a few times and have always enjoyed myself. And I will visit again in the new year.
I also don't mind the Arab/Romanian/Turkish/Bulgarian/Moroccan/Macedonian MB's who are in these bars.
I am very interested in Milan, as never been before. There was one gay sauna called Alexander's Club, which is now listed as CLOSED. apparently that was a nice place to go? I still believe there are more venues like this in Milan and would appreciate if you can confirm this?
I've been to Black and White in Madrid, but that was just a waste of time. I'm guessing most of these venues are a hit and miss?
Barcelona Thermas Sauna is still good, and I have some friends who still visit from time to time.
I'm told there is a City in Czech Republic where apparently there is a bar where there are MB's available? How true this info is, i'm not sure? I'm just waiting on more information from a friend, and I will make a short two days visit and report back.
Not sure what to say here! I assume Blacktouch means a city other than Prague? Or is phenomenally slow on the uptake?
I do remember talking to a waiter in a Prague gay bar who told me "...at the weekends I make my drag in Brno" - maybe there's something there? I never investigated further.
Moving on....I've never been in Austria (as an adult), but I'd imagine there's a fair chance of rent bars there. Anybody have experience?
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