Qualities of the gay man v the straight man

[frequent]

It was noticeable to me, when I first arrived in Pattaya in 1996, shy and only recently experienced as an actively- gay man, that the people whom I saw in gay bars (and even talked with very occasionally) behaved with decorum, unlike those many of those I saw (and didn't speak to) in straight beer bars. They dressed respectfully, were never, as far I could see, obnoxiously drunk and treated the guys with kindness and civility.

Frankly there's no point in behaving like a limp-wristed poof, thereby drawing attention to yourself from obnoxious drunks, is there?

[a447]

One can only speculate what your Karaoke "playlist" is - but based on the accounts of your sex life you post on this forum I'm assuming it's:

• Millie Small's "My Boy Lollipop"
• Olivia Neutron Bomb's "Let's Get Physical"
• Anita Ward's "Ring My Bell"
• Capt & Tenille's "Do That To Me One More Time" - and you finish up (literally) with
• Johnny Cash's "Ring of Fire"

Lol.

I feel a song coming on!

[aot871]

ITs the same as guys who come to pattaya and spend all their time with lady boys and then say they are not gay

[poshglasgow]

Trigger warning for lip-pursers everywhere (hullo francois)

Back to the theatre as bohemia and a safe haven for the "different". One of my favourite performers is the wonderful Barry Humphries who not only does not care if he offends, but actually intends to offend. An extensive interview with him has just been published in The Luvvies' in-house organ, The Guardian (or as Private Eye - another favourite - calls it The Grauniad) https://www.theguardian.com/culture/...-les-patterson

Frequent, glad to know that you follow Private Eye, as do I by way of subscription. I look forward to it arriving on my doorstep every two weeks, as much as I did "Look and Learn" in Glasgow in the early sixties (the big brother publication of which was "Knowledge"). Do you recall these publications in our fair city SG? I know that they were nationwide publications but we were 'actively encouraged' by our Jesuit schoolmasters to read them..... under sentence of death!

[poshglasgow]

"Speaking of the arts, I'm reminded that Dame Nellie Melba once described the Great Caruso's as "the sweetest cum I ever tasted"; in later life she kept a strapping young man in the wings of the theatre and sucked him off before a performance to lubricate her vocal chords."

I used to gargle with port before a performance: a trick I learnt from my mentor, an international opera singer. But, one had to spit and not swallow (careful) for fear of forgetting the words!!

[frequent]

"Speaking of the arts, I'm reminded that Dame Nellie Melba once described the Great Caruso's as "the sweetest cum I ever tasted"; in later life she kept a strapping young man in the wings of the theatre and sucked him off before a performance to lubricate her vocal chords."

I used to gargle with port before a performance: a trick I learnt from my mentor, an international opera singer. But, one had to spit and not swallow (careful) for fear of forgetting the words!!

As we can infer from his post, a447 prefers to swallow - although gargling with cum is something I hadn’t considered before now

[lonelywombat]

Frankly there's no point in behaving like a limp-wristed poof, thereby drawing attention to yourself from obnoxious drunks, is there?

It didnt succeed for you, did it?

[arsenal]

Freaky, Wombles. Get a room and take Scottish Guy with you. Freakybum can bring the Viagra, Wombles a take away from Yupins and Scottyboy an endless supply of ill thought out opinions on everything.

[poshglasgow]

Well, the Glasgow Rangers and "En-ger-land" supporters are certainly on the same side - you'll find a large number of Rangers fans who have only 3 "stepping out" outfits:

1. Rangers top
2. England top
3. Bowler Hat and Orange Order Sash

As for gay men being more educated or cultured that (ostensibly) straight men - I think you're comparing apples with oranges (no pun intended, Rangers fans).

You're comparing a clientele of (as you say) "tradesmen" who are part of a sports and drinking culture and want to be amongst their peers in a raucous bar showing football matches, with a client group who generally want to sit in a bar ogling the young male talent without anybody noticing. Obviously I'm talking of the UK, not Thailand

Gay men have historically been 'outsiders' and, by necessity, very adept at keeping their collars up and their heads down in order to hide their "dirty little secret" as society would call it - and this still influences their behaviour in many social settings.

I don't think it's a matter of education or highbrow culture at all, but of societal pressures influencing behaviours.

An excellent assessment! Much over which to ponder here, SG. Thanks.

[arsenal]

Fantastic passive/aggressive post Poshglasgow. So many members deal with him that way. He doesn't notice. Hehe.