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Thread: Great news about the boy soccer players.

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    Re: Great news about the boy soccer players.

    Quote Originally Posted by frequent View Post
    Here's an assessment of the difficulties involved in getting the boys out safely via scuba diving equipment - https://www.newscientist.com/article...to-scuba-dive/
    I suspect they will be in there for at least a few weeks. I was reading Thai visa and I laughed when a poster suggested putting the boys into capsules and pulling them out one by one. Apparently that individual had not read the description of the narrow windy path.

    Young boys and young men sometimes do (in hindsight) foolish things. I would rather see young people out doing adventures and taking risks than sitting home playing video games.

    I am lucky to be alive..all the stupid things I did when younger.

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    Re: Great news about the boy soccer players.

    One of the rescue divers has died so this is clearly a crisis situation.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...-decision-live

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    Re: Great news about the boy soccer players.

    Quote Originally Posted by arsenal View Post
    One of the rescue divers has died so this is clearly a crisis situation.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...-decision-live
    A sad occurrence but not a crisis.

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    Re: Great news about the boy soccer players.

    The trouble when rogue volunteers take matters into their own hands:

    Rescue workers suffered a setback in their race to drain water from the flooded cave and extract the team when volunteers inadvertently pumped water back into the cave.

    Operation commander Narongsak Osatanakorn said overzealous volunteers working on their own arrived on site and began pumping water into the ground, forcing it back into the partially flooded Tham Luang Nang Non cave in northern Thailand.

    "They may have some belief that their techniques are effective for groundwater drainage, but anything that is not in the plan must be discussed with us first," Narongsak told Thai media. "We are racing against water (that is) flowing into the cave although we have plugged its channels."

    The volunteers were corrected, and Poonsak Woongsatngiem, an official from Thailand’s interior ministry, told the Guardian that the water had been reduced by 40 percent in the past few days, clearing a 1-mile stretch of cave the boys would need to cross. The boys are about 2.5 miles from the cave entrance.

    Communications are also a concern as rescue workers consider extrication options in advance of monsoon rains forecast for Saturday. Authorities have not yet been able to connect a phone line, and a round trip through the winding, waterlogged tunnels between the boys and a rudimentary cave command post that now has a phone takes more than six hours.
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    Re: Great news about the boy soccer players.

    He was a former Thai Navy Seal so hardly a rogue volunteer.

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    Re: Great news about the boy soccer players.

    Quote Originally Posted by arsenal View Post
    He was a former Thai Navy Seal so hardly a rogue volunteer.
    I know that. You are mixing up two totally different events. The death of the Navy Seal was related to some kind of oxygen problem.
    The event regarding the water being pumped into the cave rather than out was the fault of "over zealous" volunteers.

    I do have a gut feeling that this is not going to end well. Hope I'm 100% wrong.
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    Re: Great news about the boy soccer players.

    Quote Originally Posted by Smiles View Post
    I know that. You are mixing up two totally different events. The death of the Navy Seal was related to some kind of oxygen problem.
    The event regarding the water being pumped into the cave rather than out was the fault of "over zealous" volunteers.

    I do have a gut feeling that this is not going to end well. Hope I'm 100% wrong.
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    Sounds like willful ignorance by arsenal.

    My opinion and mine probably srinks.. but they can not swim and or dive these kids out. Too risky and too many.
    It will be an engineering solution. Freeze the groundwater, and or dam the water inflow and pump the cave dry...or drill a tunnel from the top.

    It will take weeks 4-8 weeks to extract those boys.

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    Re: Great news about the boy soccer players.

    It will take weeks 4-8 weeks to extract those boys.
    Yes, and that's one of my fears. Those kids all look terribly emaciated already after the long spell of time they spent in the dark before being found. Can they stand the journey -- and find the immense energy needed?
    Just another reason why I love living in Thailand


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    Re: Great news about the boy soccer players.

    Quote Originally Posted by arsenal View Post
    One of the rescue divers has died so this is clearly a crisis situation.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...-decision-live
    Interesting reading, Arsenal: dreadful news about the death of one of the divers. Thanks for sharing.

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    Re: Great news about the boy soccer players.

    Kittyboy and Smiles are clearly very knowledgeable on deep cave rescues during monsoon season.

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