Those 5 Golden stars ...

[Loki]

With respect to 'One Night In A Moscow Hotel', wasn't Trump technically Golden Shower adjacent?
Does he even rate a single Golden Shower Award?

[Loki]

Scottish-guy, I fully agree. It's like pissing into the wind.
(No Trumpian Golden Shower pun intended)

[Nirish guy]

Because "who pays the piper calls the tune".

And another master class in “how to win friends and influence people” from our very own Moses ....... you really don’t help yourself in this regard Moses with your continual “fuck the lot of you I don’t care what any of you think” messages ( in case you’re not aware that’s how your posts like the above are perceived by most people - IMHO ( just for clarity)

[Moses]

And another master class in “how to win friends and influence people” from our very own Moses ....... you really don’t help yourself in this regard Moses with your continual “fuck the lot of you I don’t care what any of you think” messages ( in case you’re not aware that’s how your posts like the above are perceived by most people - IMHO ( just for clarity)

do I really need to "win friends" who's main hobby is to put nose into my business?

it is master class "how most effectively to scary people who likes to spy for mother's dates"...

[Loki]

do I really need to "win friends" who's main hobby is to put nose into my business?

it is master class "how most effectively to scary people who likes to spy for mother's dates"...

WTF?

[Loki]

Started a new thread today, and was able to grant myself a 5 "Golden Shower" rating.
Great to be able to rate my own thread !! (just kidding)

[bkkguy]

You claim SGT ratings become more accurate with more participation. (a technically correct argument, that makes no allowance for real world human behavior)
I claim the average poster won't take the time to rate, thereby allowing a small population to exert control over ratings.?

this highlights a typical problem with vBulletin software and many of its "features" and "add-ons", many forum master who use it and many of the communities it is foisted upon

many of the developers of vBulletin functions and add-ons don't necessarily understand the problem they are trying to address and/or how to implement a useful solution or they have a particular need that they address and then publish the result as a general solution

similarly many forum masters install or enable functions or add-ons they think are "sexy" or "must have" without making the effort, or perhaps lacking the skill, to evaluate the feature's implementation or its appropriateness for the community the forum serves. of course the worst case scenario is where the forum master does not see his role as "serving" the community using the forum but rather playing god because he pays the bills

but also it cuts both ways - for a toxic community such as you describe a half-assed implementation of a rating system is never going to work and the forum master either needs to find a better option, remove the option or target a more co-operative community

as for "real world human behavior", I am an active member of two very large forums with significant numbers who post and rate, these forum also have decent software, eg posts are rated rather than threads, you can't rate posts on threads you are posting on, and you can read at a rating level (eg only see posts rated 2+) - provided you agree with the "community consensus" you can easily ignore most of the crap, but this is dependent o a large active community which you are never going to achieve with such a narrow market like SGT

of course such communities are obviously the exception - reddit, twitter, "Boaty McBoatFace" and SGT are more typical examples of why we can't have nice things on the Internet :-)

bkkguy

[Loki]

Thanks for your perspective, in this insightful and reasoned post.

[scottish-guy]

...it is master class "how most effectively to scary people who likes to spy for mother's dates"...

Total gibberish - and that's being kind

[Loki]

An incomprehensible melange of words !