Criminal background checks

[cdnmatt]

Anyone have experience with this? We're in our final days in Khon Kaen, so are running around getting all needed documentation before I get my ass blacklisted for 10 years, and so we can secure him a visitor VISA to Canada.

He's lived in Thailand for over 6 months, so I'm sure the Canadian government will want a criminal background check from the Thai police for him. Told him to get one, he says he went to three police stations, and they all told him he needs to go to Bangkok to get it. That has to be bullshit, and he just doesn't know what he's doing.

At least in Canada, criminal background checks are very common, cost about $10, and you can't even get a job as a landscaper without one. I can't possibly see why he'd have to travel to Bangkok to get one.

Anyone with any experience with this? We should be capable of obtaining a criminal record at any local police station, right? If not, can we just do it via mail in Bangkok without actually having to travel to Bangkok?

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[justaguy]

Hold on, a trip to Lao is out now ? Not sure if the Thai authorities can perform criminal background checks into Lao citizens that are on visa exempt by crossing the border every month.

Good luck with your visa application. Not sure when you are going to get blacklisted, but securing visas to first world countries, usually take some time before being granted. Allthough if you are Lucky, you could be in and out in a week or so.

[cdnmatt]

Yes, the Thai authorities can do a criminal background check on him. He'll require one for every country he's lived in for 6+ months, which means from both, Thailand and Laos. He should just have to provide any police station his passport, they punch his name and birth date into the computer, and print out a piece of paper saying he has no recorded criminal activity in Thailand. It's that simple.

As per-usual though, it's turned into a gone show. The cops here told him he needs to go to Bangkok, which obviously can't be correct.

I know the Canadian government is going to require it though, because they won't issue him a visitor VISA without a criminal background check from any country he['s lived in for 6+ months.

[scottish-guy]

Yes, the Thai authorities can do a criminal background check on him. He'll require one for every country he's lived in for 6+ months, which means from both, Thailand and Laos. He should just have to provide any police station his passport, they punch his name and birth date into the computer, and print out a piece of paper saying he has no recorded criminal activity in Thailand. It's that simple.

I'll be surprised if the Thai police can give a clean bill of health for Laos - I'm sceptical they share information to that extent - and if that's the case I can't see the Canadian authorities accepting partial information (theoretically he could be an axe murderer on the run in Laos but squeaky clean in Thailand) but hey it's your country, you should know....

[justaguy]

Ok, then just go to Bangkok, you probably need to go there anyway to get a visa.

[cdnmatt]

No, I'm most likely getting myself blacklisted for 10 years, and get fucked if you think I'm travelling on the highway to Bangkok. I'm just working on getting across that Nong Khai border safely without ending up in a jial cell.

The criminal background check is for Leo and the Canadian government to get him granted a visitor VISA. It's not for me at all.

[kkjason]

As far as I understand, the police did tell him correctly. I know for an immigrant visa to the USA, a criminal background check is also required. The ONLY Police station that does this is the main police station near Lumpini Park in Bangkok. There are no other options. It is actually, for Thailand, a quite sophisticated little operation. Leo has to be there in person. They run his fingerprints through a system, ask him some questions, and, in our case, they called the local police station in my husband's village.

Anyway - it looks like if you want him to get the right criminal clearance, it will have to be done in Bangkok. He can do it on his own easily. If you need the exact name of the police station and better directions, let me know, I will try to look through my paperwork and see if I can find it.

Cheers -

[justaguy]

No, I'm most likely getting myself blacklisted for 10 years, and get fucked if you think I'm travelling on the highway to Bangkok. I'm just working on getting across that Nong Khai border safely without ending up in a jial cell.

The criminal background check is for Leo and the Canadian government to get him granted a visitor VISA. It's not for me at all.

Oh my, what utter rubbish, to get to Nong Khai from Khon Kaen, you need to travel on the very same highway, going the other way !

You could take the train if you are that worried about being checked, or let Leo go alone, I'm sure he can manage. And I already understood the criminal check was for Leo, hence the visa remark.

But now I still see you want to get to Lao illegally, which is utterly stupid, you are not a Lao, so you will go from being illegally in Thailand to being illegally in Lao. Granted, the Lao are not this stung up with the whole issue of overstaying than the Thai, but it might be a good idea to bite the bullet, secure Leo a visa, go to the Airport and fly back to Canada with him. All that will happen is you will pay 20K overstay fine and get blacklisted for 10 years. No big deal

Edit: I just realized, you might actually be thinking of crossing the border at Nong Khai normally, and expected to get a 10 year blacklist + 20K fine, as opposed to crossing the border illegally.

Did you inquire if that is even possible, it wouldn't surprise me if they send you back to Bangkok with a massive overstay. Quite possibly to the IDC. If I were you, I would have a ticket out to Canada ready just in case..

[mr giggles]

Oh my, what utter rubbish, to get to Nong Khai from Khon Kaen, you need to travel on the very same highway, going the other way !

You could take the train if you are that worried about being checked, or let Leo go alone, I'm sure he can manage. And I already understood the criminal check was for Leo, hence the visa remark.

But now I still see you want to get to Lao illegally, which is utterly stupid, you are not a Lao, so you will go from being illegally in Thailand to being illegally in Lao. Granted, the Lao are not this stung up with the whole issue of overstaying than the Thai, but it might be a good idea to bite the bullet, secure Leo a visa, go to the Airport and fly back to Canada with him. All that will happen is you will pay 20K overstay fine and get blacklisted for 10 years. No big deal

Edit: I just realized, you might actually be thinking of crossing the border at Nong Khai normally, and expected to get a 10 year blacklist + 20K fine, as opposed to crossing the border illegally.

Did you inquire if that is even possible, it wouldn't surprise me if they send you back to Bangkok with a massive overstay. Quite possibly to the IDC. If I were you, I would have a ticket out to Canada ready just in case..

Yeah Matt, so you will blacklisted for 10 years in Thailand and Laos, and Leo is only on a Canadian visitor visa so will have to leave Canada.

So, you will end up in different continents shortly.... well, you were never that happy with the relationship so you can finally get rid of him, good thinking!

[cdnmatt]

Really? So what Leo told me is the truth, and he actually needs to be in-person in Bangkok for a criminal background check? How absolutely fucken retarded.

In Canada, you can't even get a job as a taxi driver without a criminal background check, and it's a cery standard procedure thqat takes 5 minutes and about $10. I remember before when I got my farang husband permanent residency status to Canada, it took four criminal background checks -- Canada, Florida, FBI, Hungary. We were able to do all four in Canada without issue.

Alright then, another thing on the to-do list. How fucken stupid. Just punch his name and birth date into a computer, and print a piece of paper saying he has no criminal convictions in Thailand. It's that simple. No idea why he has to go all the way to Bangkok for that.