Ridiculously tiny Vietnamese guy

[extronaut]

Hi nordicguy. I suppose I should follow up, just to elaborate.

He didn't want money, but he did want stuff.

At first, I just bought him food, which I didn't mind at all. There's something nice about providing food for your lover.

Then he wanted a shirt, which I didn't mind at all. Only $10 in local prices, and I quite like the idea of him looking good in something I bought.

Then I bought some groceries for him. This wasn't unreasonable at all, because he kindly gave me a lift to a big supermarket in District 4, so I figured the least I could do, was buy some stuff he and his family needed.

Then he asked me to buy him a mobile phone. I said no, because I suspected he be was getting greedy. Though, in my defence, I did have it in the back of my mind, that I might surprise him before I leave, and buy something along those lines. But I felt him cool on me a little bit.

It all ended a bit strangely. I'm not sure why. I mentioned that after sex cuddles were great. Well one day they weren't. Usually, he was abnormally affectionate after he'd emptied his balls, and wanted to cuddle forever. One day, it wasn't so. He shed his load, and for the first time, seemed to be suffering 'la petite mort' just like an ordinary human male. I just knew he was looking at me completely different now. Don't even know what he saw in me in the first place, perhaps some sort of aura? Well maybe it had lost its sheen.

The next day, for the first time, he didn't message me on Facebook. So I gathered it was probably over.

Not that I was heartbroken. To be honest, the lacklustre, unadventurous sex was getting me down a bit. That is kind of serious, really! I tended to his needs, which I enjoyed, but I wasn't getting what I needed in return. Not even a happy ending, usually. It's nice to have a bf with a cute little arse, but what if you can't fuck it without fear of injuring him? He really was ridiculously tiny.

That night, I sought out the sleaziest, dirtiest massage boy I knew, and invited him back to my hotel for sex. It was great. I rolled around with him for an hour, then came, yay verily, in his mouth, and he seemed honestly proud that he'd done a good job. I paid him well, and he left with a smile.

Of course, I didn't want it to be completely over with other guy. I did message him before I left, told him I liked him, and that I'd like to stay touch. He just said "up to you", which seemed a bit frosty, so I left it at that.

Small epilogue.....

I'd been back in Australia about three months, and I was lying in bed, suffering a bout of insomnia. Suddenly, he video calls me on Facebook. I answer, and I can see his cute little bod, lying naked on the bed. It being 2am, I demanded to know what he wanted, but he just pokes his tongue at me, naughty smile on his face. He switches to the rear camera, showing his cock, and starts to put on a show. I did the same. The show ended with a familiar sounding high pitched moan, and something getting splattered over the camera lense.

Then he immediately hangs up.

"Goodnight," he says in text. "Chúc ngủ ngon," I reply.

Nice to know he still thinks of me.

[nordicguy]

@extronaut: First of all, again thanks for sharing all this. It's really interesting to hear about. I've had my share of Asian cuties, but never experienced a boy that enigmatic. Clearly he's also confused about what he thinks of you, but it's not you causing this confusion (you seem to be very clear in your communication and way to act) - it's his own messy thoughts I suppose. He sounds like he's into you, but really cannot find out how to handle these flirts with Caucasian guys on holiday. My general experience with holiday flirts and dates is that it works best if both guys accept the terms of this kind of meetings: He might just have exciting sex a few times with the western guy and never meet him again, and even if he stays in touch with you (linking up on serious social media) there's only a smaller chance that you will meet again. He might just get paid with some well-intentioned (well-deserved supplement income) and never meet the guy again, or he will feel that there is a certain chemistry and it might feel more right for the Caucasian guy to be generous in other ways than pure cash: Dinner, gadgets, clothes shopping etc. Anyway, this boy seemed very confused about what these kind of encounters is all about and how to handle such lust-driven aquaintances, which can develop into more, but usually does not.

About sex part - I understand you fully: I've had bad sex with boys who didn't deliver anything. Like you, I care very much about how the boy's own enjoyment in bed and his satisfaction. I cannot imagine anything more unethical than sex with a guy who clearly does not enjoy it and just needs money or for other wrong reasons. It has to be a mutual sex experience in some or the other way, even when there are good and well-meaning money involved. It sounds like you're more top like me (pure top!), and pounding the boy's ass is key for me, and since I also find the smaller guys kinda cute, I can definately relate to your experience: He's sexy and cute and tiny (and is able to prove beyond all doubt that he's of legal age of course!) but you're not sure if he can take it in his ass, because he's so tiny. And sometimes I feel it's better not to try than to struggle for long with his super small ass and fail and give up because he simply cannot take it. It's much worse than just geting a nice BJ, maybe rim him a little and finish close together with some nice cuddling and maybe kissing too. Sorry if I'm being too graphic here moderators, but I just try to say that I 100% get your point that bad sex can really leave you with a bad feeling afterwards. Not being able to finish properly (together!) also gets me in a bad mood for the rest of the day or night.

[extronaut]

Thanks for offering your insights, nordicguy.

You might be interested to know that I've resumed chatting with him a bit on Facebook, thanks in part to your input.

More on his 'enigma', as you put it.

He's always liked to tell me how tough his circumstances are. And I believe him! I know he works from 6am to about 5pm, while paying off loans. I've seen his family, from a distance, and they indeed look very poor, living on the edge, just as he constantly reminds me.

He goes on about this regularly, and has done as long as I've known him. And every time he does, I say something like:

"So do you want some money?"

And his response is always: "NO!" And then things like "I pay myself!"

This routine gets me every time, because it always feels exactly like he's trying hit me up for some động. Or maybe he just wants some sympathy? Or maybe he does want money, but needs me to offer it to him in a different way? Or maybe he thinks I'm going to marry him and bring him back to Australia? Who knows.

[nordicguy]

Or maybe he just wants some sympathy? Or maybe he does want money, but needs me to offer it to him in a different way? Or maybe he thinks I'm going to marry him and bring him back to Australia? Who knows.

That's really interesting to hear that you are in touch with him again now. I try to imagine how he looks. There must be something about him, since he's still on your mind :-)

I've been dating mainly Asian guys with a poor background (they make of the vast majority on all Asian guys you meet on the net and in bars and anywhere else in SE Asia) and I have usually been able to communicate with them in a fairly honest way about money. I acknowledge that they need money, and since I have - relatively speaking - loads of money compared to them, I would be wrong not to share some of my "wealth" with thim (again in relative terms, I'm not an excentric billionaire travelling around....) Thai boys don't seem to have any problem asking for money upfront, during and afterwards. Pinoys are much more discreet in their money requests and try to avoid direct requests at all means. I believe the same goes for most other SE Asian countries, also Vietnam. So you're probably right that you should never just offer money.

If he was expecting a marriage proposal, wouldn't you be able to feel that more directly? Like romantic hints?