Me again.

[aarancam]

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Does this make any sense to anyone?

[bobsaigon2]

06/08/1984 on the paper. Is that his birth date? No longer a Lao "boy". I guess you have to compare his Lao passport or ID with the name and DOB on the document. The measurements look like it's a townhouse/row house/ shop house, or simply a piece of vacant land. It might be helpful if you have this translated by a service in Australia, but it's still not evidence that he would be financially motivated to return to Australia after his tourist visa expired.

There is a tendency to think that "This one is special. He's not like all the other money boys that people on this forum have met". Wisdom doesn't necessarily come with age, but we can relate our experiences and indicate just how trustworthy this person appears to us. I hope you'll make the decision that is best for you.

[cdnmatt]

I'm assuming those images are in Laos language? Hang on, he's sleeping again. I'll get him to let me know what it says later, and will reply back.

[aarancam]

I'm assuming those images are in Laos language? Hang on, he's sleeping again. I'll get him to let me know what it says later, and will reply back.

Thanks matey

[aarancam]

06/08/1984 on the paper. Is that his birth date? No longer a Lao "boy". I guess you have to compare his Lao passport or ID with the name and DOB on the document. The measurements look like it's a townhouse/row house/ shop house, or simply a piece of vacant land. It might be helpful if you have this translated by a service in Australia, but it's still not evidence that he would be financially motivated to return to Australia after his tourist visa expired.

There is a tendency to think that "This one is special. He's not like all the other money boys that people on this forum have met". Wisdom doesn't necessarily come with age, but we can relate our experiences and indicate just how trustworthy this person appears to us. I hope you'll make the decision that is best for you.

He has a shop and pigs and chickens. He's only coming to Oz for a month. I don't mind sending $600 but I'm worried this might happen a few times in different ways. He could have twenty of us on the go for all I know!

[bobsaigon2]

He could have twenty of us on the go for all I know! Glad to see this bit of realism appearing in your post. Indeed he could have multiple supporters, and by age 33, if that is his correct age, it's possible he also has wife and children in the background.

[cdnmatt]

Oh, and I forgot... Is the land already in his name, or does he need to flip it over into his name? If the latter, then yeah, I guess 15,000 baht sounds about right. I didn't really understand the explanation Leo gave, but I guess switching land ownership to another person is quite expensive for some reason.

If the land is already in his name, then it should be around 100 baht. Just go to the government land office with photo ID, they'll have the records in their computer, print out a new deed, give it a quick stamp, and off you go.

[aarancam]

Oh, and I forgot... Is the land already in his name, or does he need to flip it over into his name? If the latter, then yeah, I guess 15,000 baht sounds about right. I didn't really understand the explanation Leo gave, but I guess switching land ownership to another person is quite expensive for some reason.

If the land is already in his name, then it should be around 100 baht. Just go to the government land office with photo ID, they'll have the records in their computer, print out a new deed, give it a quick stamp, and off you go.

Thanks. I've just told him that and I really think he is being honest. Thanks for your help, I'll keep you briefed. Can I send private messages to you or email? davidowen3333@hotmail.com

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Oh, and I forgot... Is the land already in his name, or does he need to flip it over into his name? If the latter, then yeah, I guess 15,000 baht sounds about right. I didn't really understand the explanation Leo gave, but I guess switching land ownership to another person is quite expensive for some reason.

One of the reasons that changing ownership of land takes a fairly long time (and expense) is that the new owner has to get his own new 'Chinote'. It's not simply a change of names on an original chinote. Part of the bureaucratic process in doing so also includes a completely new survey of the land in question (including a few pickup trucks, lots of equipment, half a dozen staff. Often it takes week or months for your name to get to the front of the queue. None of this is free.)
Some of these pieces of land in the country side have been owned by families for a very long time. Many do not even have a chinote: property lines get forgotten, stakes go missing, cement or iron placements get covered over or they disintegrate over time. Trust me ... we've been there!

The rules I mention regarding this process are of cause Thailand's rules, but I'd place a bit of a bet on the rules in Lao being very similar.

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Does this make any sense to anyone?

It's the land title. In Thailand it's called a 'chinote'. Don't the name in Lao, but possibly the same, or something similar. But the Lao document looks very much like a Thailand Chinote.
The diagram in the middle is a measured facsimile of the piece of land itself including size and any main roads it's bordering on. The size of the property seems to be 30 meters long X 20 meters along the road (i.e. the ----------- lines). The little round 'O's at each corner of the surveyor's stakes are the limits of the property. A 5th 'O' at the bottom delineates another person's land.
The date 1989 up there at the top is probably the date which the original owner claimed the piece of land. The 2014 date is probably when the new owner received his chinote.

(Just asked my guy about the chinote in Lao. He speaks Lao as well, but said he didn't know ... he's always used the word "chinote" when talking about land stuff even when the discussion is in Lao.)