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Does this make any sense to anyone?
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Does this make any sense to anyone?
06/08/1984 on the paper. Is that his birth date? No longer a Lao "boy". I guess you have to compare his Lao passport or ID with the name and DOB on the document. The measurements look like it's a townhouse/row house/ shop house, or simply a piece of vacant land. It might be helpful if you have this translated by a service in Australia, but it's still not evidence that he would be financially motivated to return to Australia after his tourist visa expired.
There is a tendency to think that "This one is special. He's not like all the other money boys that people on this forum have met". Wisdom doesn't necessarily come with age, but we can relate our experiences and indicate just how trustworthy this person appears to us. I hope you'll make the decision that is best for you.
He has a shop and pigs and chickens. He's only coming to Oz for a month. I don't mind sending $600 but I'm worried this might happen a few times in different ways. He could have twenty of us on the go for all I know!Originally Posted by bobsaigon2
Oh, and I forgot... Is the land already in his name, or does he need to flip it over into his name? If the latter, then yeah, I guess 15,000 baht sounds about right. I didn't really understand the explanation Leo gave, but I guess switching land ownership to another person is quite expensive for some reason.
If the land is already in his name, then it should be around 100 baht. Just go to the government land office with photo ID, they'll have the records in their computer, print out a new deed, give it a quick stamp, and off you go.
Thanks. I've just told him that and I really think he is being honest. Thanks for your help, I'll keep you briefed. Can I send private messages to you or email? davidowen3333@hotmail.com
One of the reasons that changing ownership of land takes a fairly long time (and expense) is that the new owner has to get his own new 'Chinote'. It's not simply a change of names on an original chinote. Part of the bureaucratic process in doing so also includes a completely new survey of the land in question (including a few pickup trucks, lots of equipment, half a dozen staff. Often it takes week or months for your name to get to the front of the queue. None of this is free.)
Some of these pieces of land in the country side have been owned by families for a very long time. Many do not even have a chinote: property lines get forgotten, stakes go missing, cement or iron placements get covered over or they disintegrate over time. Trust me ... we've been there!
The rules I mention regarding this process are of cause Thailand's rules, but I'd place a bit of a bet on the rules in Lao being very similar.
Just another reason why I love living in Thailand
aarancam (June 13th, 2017), christianpfc (June 14th, 2017)
You have hinted at the real reason why it's so expensive - "it takes week or months for your name to get to the front of the queue. None of this is free". But if you understand that you can suddenly get to the front of the queue by paying a "facilitation" fee, or languish at the back of the queue forever because you won't (or can't) ...
Getting to the front of the queue in Lao will not cost more than the odd thousand or two thousand baht. Transferring land ownership cost 15.000 baht ? People don't be silly.
A couple of years ago, my boyfriend bought a parcel of land ample to put a new house on. The fee, 4000 baht, that's the land and the switching of ownership. Oh and a few bottles of beerlao to clear the land.
Quite right. In Thailand "facilitation" is always an option.
Just another reason why I love living in Thailand
Like smiles I cannot advise on the Lao costs for land name changes, and as cdnmatt has also suggested I can certainly confirm that in Issan anyway it is very costly. Over the last couple of years as the parents have become older in bfs extended family, a few in the family circle have been 'sorting out' the land issues before some of that older generation pass away, once 1 or 2 family members started doing this 1 or 2 more with similarly aged parents also decided time was right to pass on the land rights. What to us and me seemed a simple enough name change legal process for a couple thousand baht was way off the mark. Most recent was land passed from father's family to son (as he ran the farming business)and it cost Bt32,000. It was more necessary because the land was needed to be used as surety to the bank against borrowing for farm machinery/building etc but that was just the fees with no Q jumping costs.
Also more recently, unfortunately, some of these transactions have been needed as bank loans and more specifically car loans have been called in around the village area as the new car showrooms which sprung up 3-4 years back in the area persuaded many to go into long term loan agreements they just were not in the position to pay back if anything went belly up during the 6 years or so of the loan period. The problem for many was they were so keen to get a vehicle to keep up with the Jones's not only did they borrow the money from Toyota or whoever but instead of saving for the deposit went and borrowed that too from a different, often more expensive source and so there was no equity whatsoever after 2-3 years of car ownership as a cash deposit would have allowed for, and if losses accrued on top of the poor value of the high mileage vehicle meant raising alternative sources of funds.....family land. My last visit to bfs village we noticed two large areas of land up for sale through loan company agencies. (village gossip, gossip, gossip....)
christianpfc (June 14th, 2017)
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