Medellin Plane Crash: How many other Carriers cut it so fine?

[latintopxxx]

just pointing out that a blatantly racist comment is un called for...after all the 3 mile nuclear incident wasnt caused by brown immigrants...nevjer was the hindenberg or titanic or erebus plane crash...or the air france airliner that disappeared en route to France from Brazil...
And whilst we on the subject of race...personally when I'm made king of the universe I'd put out a " shoot to kill on sight" on all white men in grey suits in the finance industry.....the damage that these evil doers have done...bin laden was an amateur compared to that lot...

[fountainhall]

gerefan2...I know trump has just electronically cheated his way into becoming world dictator and that its OK to be non PC again...like it was 30 years ago....and I realise that most of the members of this board are living fossils and hanker back to the good old days when white and male was all that was needed to be successful (which is why I so love seeing afrikaans MB on the end of my dick...or hunting down US white trash) .....

What a load of typical Sexually Deviant Latin nonsense!

[fountainhall]

this whole post so far is rumours....

Nonsense! I suggest you read up on issues on which you decide to make comments before making them. Colombia's Civil Aviation Department had a media Conference 2 days ago. It included the following -

Colombia’s Civil Aviation Authority has officially confirmed that the Bolivian BAe Avro RJ85 operated by Lamia crashed near Medellin with empty fuel tanks..

During a press conference held on 30 November, Aerocivil’s Secretary of Aviation Safety Freddy Bonilla assures that "the aircraft did not operate with the mandatory fuel reserves mandated by international regulations”.

He said that Lamia’s flight plan had established as the alternative airport Bogota, which is slightly less distant from de Santa Cruz (Bolivia) than Medellin, indicating, however, that “the aircraft had not loaded sufficient fuel for an eventual diversion back to the alternative airport, nor for the internationally established 35min fuel reserve”.

Bonilla also confirmed that the actual distance between Santa Cruz and Medellin on the route followed by the Lamia flight was 1,588nm. “We will investigate why Lamia authorised a flight, which [taking into account the mandatory reserves] was beyond the range of the aircraft [1,600 NM]”.

[werner]

I grieve because some many people lost their lives.
But what does this discussion have to do with "Gay Thailand"?

[arsenal]

Werner: Well for a start all of us fly and pretty frequently at that so anything to do with airlines is of concern to us all and secondly this board allows/encourages discussion on most topics if the membership is interested in doing so.

I think the thread Scottish began regarding fare add ons and this thread are far closer to each other than perhaps many would like to think.

[fountainhall]

Interesting article in the latest edition of The Economist -

"It is not clear how or why the last-minute change in flight plan was approved. According to El Deber, a Bolivian newspaper, airport officials in Santa Cruz de la Sierra raised several questions about it. Mr Quiroga [the pilot] reportedly made various verbal guarantees that the plane had enough fuel for the trip.

Other considerations may have been on the pilot’s mind. Mr Quiroga was a co-owner of Lamia airlines. As such he had a unique set of incentives in this situation. Postponing a chartered flight in a time-sensitive industry is not good for business. Once in the air, telling officials that the plane is running out of fuel is less than desirable: the penalty for any firm being caught flouting regulations is huge. It is too early to say whether such factors played a part in his decision-making.

It is also unclear why a top-tier football team was flying to a major sporting event with an airline like Lamia in the first place. The firm was founded in 2009 in Mérida, a small city in western Venezuela. Last year Lamia Bolivia, a separate business entity, was set up. The airline claims to specialise in chartered flights, particularly for football teams. The only functioning plane it has ever owned is the 17-year-old jet that crashed into the muddy Colombian mountainside.

The players of Chapecoense were not the only footballers to fly with Lamia. Few airlines provide chartered flights in Latin America, and none does it cheaper. “A flight that another company charges you $100,000 for, Lamia offered for $60,000,” an industry insider told La Nacion, an Argentine newspaper."

http://www.economist.com/blogs/gulli.../12/fuel-folly

As another poster on the pprune.org makes clear, the reason this one-aircraft charter flew a lot of soccer teams was -

Quite simply they were "recommended" by Conmebol, the South American [Soccer] federation.(Post #180)

Given the huge corruption scandals at FIFA and in particular those involving the South American Federation, it would seem that more than a few brown envelopes were probably passed between individuals to ensure soccer teams used LaMia! Very sadly, with disastrous consequences.

[latintopxxx]

speaking of corruption...wasnt some senior irish olympics chied arrested in his underwear in Rio for corruption...or was he a non-caucasian irishman?? Didnt the germans at VW not cheat with their emmissions testing...or were they too non-caucasian??
CORRUPTION is prevalent in all races...

[fountainhall]

Sexually Deviant Latin - your post betrays serious psychological issues. See a doctor! If you think an Olympics chief being charged with corruption - whatever he was wearing - in any possible way equates to corruption resulting in the downing of a plane and the loss of 71 lives, you are ill! As you wrote earlier -

yours is one of the sickest posts to date...

And that was nothing compared to what you just wrote!

[fountainhall]

Where I wrote "the loss of 71 lives" I should have been more accurate - it was the murder of 70 innocent lives plus his own.

[latintopxxx]

fountainhall I realise that after a certain age your memory starts to wander and that due to excessive abuse of alcohol u live in a bit of a daze...but i was merely responding to the fact that gerefan made a blatantly racist posting ...and u jumped in with conflict of interst issues/corruption on the pilots side as he was a co-owner of the airline. I merely pointed out that throughout the ages there are countless examples of lilly white people deeply involved in corruption and mishaps due to their own carelessness/stupidity. so its got absolutely nothing to do with race.