Americans at Thai gay-friendly hotels....

[Nirish guy]

Since you speak excellent English they likely thought you to be a fellow American?

And why should one of those automatically allow presumption of the other as it's rarely found to be the case !??

[scottish-guy]

Indeed NIrish - being American and speaking excellent English are mutually exclusive.

One of my current bugbears is the extremely ugly yet increasingly common Americanism "gotten"

[francois]

One of my current bugbears is the extremely ugly yet increasingly common Americanism "gotten"

Terrible word, I have forgotten when I last used gotten.

[francois]

One of my current bugbears is the extremely ugly yet increasingly common Americanism "gotten"

I do wonder where that ugly word originated?

Soon gotten, soon spent; ill gotten, ill spent. John Heywood


John Heywood (1497–1580) was an English writer known for his plays, poems, and collection of proverbs.

WHEN first my brave Johnie lad came to this town,
He had a blue bonnet that wanted the crown;
But now he has gotten a hat and a feather,
Hey, brave Johnie lad, cock up your beaver! Robert Burns


Robert Burns, also known as Rabbie Burns, the Bard of Ayrshire and various other names and epithets, was a Scottish poet and lyricist. He is widely regarded as the national poet of Scotland and is celebrated worldwide.

[dab69]

well you describe yourself as elderly so you won't have to put up with it much longer

[fountainhall]

I find my iPad Mini works wonders at keeping Americans and any others at bay in the morning. I just wish them a good morning and tell them I'm checking the news on BBC and CNN. For whatever reason, that almost always suits them up!

[Dalewood]

I do wonder where that ugly word originated?

Soon gotten, soon spent; ill gotten, ill spent. John Heywood


John Heywood (1497–1580) was an English writer known for his plays, poems, and collection of proverbs.

WHEN first my brave Johnie lad came to this town,
He had a blue bonnet that wanted the crown;
But now he has gotten a hat and a feather,
Hey, brave Johnie lad, cock up your beaver! Robert Burns

When the English arrived in North America, gotten was the word. As time passed, it became got in Britain but remained gotten in North America.

[francois]

When the English arrived in North America, gotten was the word. As time passed, it became got in Britain but remained gotten in North America.

Oh, you mean it was forgotten in Britain?

Just wanted Scottish guy to know the origins of gotten. If it is good enough for Robert Burns it is good enough for me.

[francois]

Apologies to the OP, werner, for wandering off topic.

Best way to avoid interaction with other, elderly, friendly,gay American men is to put in some ear buds and pretend you don't hear them.

[scottish-guy]

That's what I like about this board, Francois - I learn something every day