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Thread: Protests update

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    Re: Protests update

    Quote Originally Posted by Up2U
    the link clearly says greenleft.org and the author says he belongs to the socialist group left turn organization
    I was not accusing you of hiding the source of the article, I was merely pointing out that if you read the mission statement the content of the article will be much easier to understand!

    Quote Originally Posted by Up2U
    I always read and try to understand all sides of complex issues.
    and this helps you to understand the current situation in Thailand does it?

    Quote Originally Posted by GreenLeft.org.au
    What is necessary for the first time in Thailand since the mid-1970s is secret organisation. We have a lot to learn from the Communist Party, both from their failings and their achievements.

    What we need now is not armed struggle. That would be hopelessly destroyed by the military. What we need is mass movements with links to the organised working class, with internal democracy, that discusses the political situation and agrees on strategy. That has to be done underground.
    I would mention wheat and chaff again but ultimately I suppose you are right - Green Left was only launched in 1990 so arguably it does not yet have a "long history of bias" which you would like to dismiss other sources for being guilty of!

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    Re: Protests update

    where have all the yellow shirt protesters gone. they were so visible before their army friends took over.

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    Re: Protests update

    Quote Originally Posted by frequentfliers
    where have all the yellow shirt protesters gone. they were so visible before their army friends took over.
    Why would they be visible when their plan is being implemented?

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    I see investigations have not found any evidence of corruption in the Rice Subsidy Scheme one of the main reasons for the coupe. Keep looking fellas http://asiaprovocateur.blogspot.com/201 ... andal.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by frequentfliers
    where have all the yellow shirt protesters gone. they were so visible before their army friends took over.
    They would be partying except that gatherings of more than 5 people for politicle purposes have been banned.

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    Re: Protests update

    I wonder if they are still being paid their wages by their masters? We now know that it wasn't just Suthep and his loony-royalists dishing out the cash; more sinister military men were in the background.
    Of course, the ones I saw harassing Thais near Lumpini have probably returned to their day-jobs as mafia thugs.

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    Re: Protests update

    Quote Originally Posted by BrisbaneGuy
    I see investigations have not found any evidence of corruption in the Rice Subsidy Scheme one of the main reasons for the coupe
    22 million tons? IsnтАЩt that strange! Funny how that blogger failed to note that less than four weeks ago the Chaiyaphum Provincial Court sentenced a rice miller to 20 years in prison for a rice fraud conspiracy involving a тАЬmissing 750 tonnes of paddy and rice from government stocks.тАЭ

    http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/rice-m ... ng-frauds/

    The failure is more pertinent given that 100 teams set up to carry out the nationwide checks of the governmentтАЩs rice stock pile only began work two days ago. Their work is not scheduled to be completed for 45 days. Many commentators have estimated the losses through corruption and poor warehousing to be not less than US$15 billion. Even The Economist magazine declared of the scheme in August last year, тАЬIt is a fiasco.тАЭ And the blogger has the chutzpah to call it the "Faked Rice Subsidy Scheme Scandal!"

    Rice has been a subject for corruption for years before the pledging scheme came into operation. Last month the Samut Prakhan Provincial Court sentenced a rice businessman to six years in jail after finding him guilty of embezzlement and fraud re failure to deliver a Bt. 200 million rice shipment to Iran.

    http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politic ... 37044.html

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    Re: Protests update

    Quote Originally Posted by BrisbaneGuy
    I see investigations have not found any evidence of corruption in the Rice Subsidy Scheme one of the main reasons for the coupe.
    Your conclusion comes prematurely at best, checking the warehouses to conduct a full audit will take about one month until it's completed.

    And after a mere two days, quite some "irregularities" have been found already, see http://bangkokpost.com/most-recent/4190 ... ice-stocks
    Yes, grandpa, I know it used to be more fun 30 years ago...

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    Re: Protests update

    For those who feel the military junta has gotten the short end of the stick in the court of world opinion, here is some welcome support:

    http://www.bangkokpost.com/lite/topstor ... om-myanmar

    http://asiancorrespondent.com/124439/my ... ign=buffer

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    Re: Protests update

    Quote Originally Posted by fountainhall
    Quote Originally Posted by BrisbaneGuy
    I see investigations have not found any evidence of corruption in the Rice Subsidy Scheme one of the main reasons for the coupe
    22 million tons? IsnтАЩt that strange! Funny how that blogger failed to note that less than four weeks ago the Chaiyaphum Provincial Court sentenced a rice miller to 20 years in prison for a rice fraud conspiracy involving a тАЬmissing 750 tonnes of paddy and rice from government stocks.тАЭ
    Like so many others you fail to understand the nature of news. It is either an event so big it cannot be ignored, or an exception, or speculation (ie. not news at all). The blogger was commenting on a report on the audit results that have been reported, not the ones that have not. The fraud you mention amalgamated paddy and rice from government stocks without differentiating. The Economist so far is merely speculating, based presumably on Yellow Shirt propaganda. You seem to have adopted the mentality of assuming that exceptions somehow exemplify a general principle.

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