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Thread: Abe Lincoln slept with men?

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    Abe Lincoln slept with men?

    or, how "Log Cabin Republicans" were named?

    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.h ... a9639c8b63

    THIS book is already getting noticed. In ''The Intimate World of Abraham Lincoln,'' C. A. Tripp contends that Lincoln had erotic attractions and attachments to men throughout his life, from his youth to his presidency. He further argues that Lincoln's relationships with women were either invented by biographers (his love of Ann Rutledge) or were desolate botches (his courtship of Mary Owens and his marriage to Mary Todd). Tripp is not the first to argue that Lincoln was homosexual -- earlier writers have parsed his friendship with Joshua Speed, the young store owner he lived with after moving to Springfield, Ill. -- but he assembles a mass of evidence and tries to make sense of it.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexuality_ ... am_Lincoln
    The sexuality of Abraham Lincoln (1809тАУ1865), the 16th President of the United States, has been a topic of historical debate and scholarship.[1] Although Lincoln was married to Mary Todd from November 4, 1842, until his death on April 15, 1865, and fathered four children with her, psychologist C. A. Tripp has observed that Lincoln's problematic and distant relationship with women stood in contrast to his warmer relations with a number of men in his life and that two of those relationships had possible homoerotic overtones.[2] Some Lincoln biographers, including David Herbert Donald, have strongly contested claims that Lincoln was homosexual or bisexual.[3] In opposing these claims, Donald cites Lincoln's letters, in which he frequently refers to acquaintances, even political enemies, as "my personal friend".[4]

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    Re: Abe Lincoln slept with men?

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    Artist Skylar Fein is engineering Abraham Lincoln and Joshua Speed's sleeping arrangements into a curious exhibit at the C24 Gallery in New York.

    Historians have wondered about Lincoln sharing a straw-stuffed mattress with Speed in 1830s Springfield, Ill. But Fein is taking the mystique out of it by reconstructing their bedroom. The artist notes that there are no photos of their housing, and so he relied instead on photos and sketches of similar places.

    The exhibit brings visitors up the stairs above the shop and to the bedroom. The faint smell of hay and tobacco lingers, and music reminiscent of the time period plays.

    See what it looks like in photos of the exhibit on the following pages.

    Now through December 21.
    514 W. 24th St., New York, NY 10011
    For more information about C24 Gallery please visit c24gallery.com



    Skylar Fein, The Lincoln Bedroom, under construction, 2013. Photograph by Chris Berntsen. Courtesy of the artist and C24 Gallery

    Click through for more images from this exhibit.>>>


    The Lincoln Bedroom



    The Lincoln Bedroom



    The Lincoln Bedroom

    In a statement in October, Skylar Fein explained his exhibit this way:

    From 1837 to 1841, Abraham Lincoln and Joshua Speed shared a bedroom.

    Famously, or infamously, they also shared the bed.

    Historians say they know why: necessity. Springfield, Illinois, was a frontier town. There were fewer beds, and the two young men just didnтАЩt have other options.

    Does this explanation make sense? Joshua Speed was the scion of a wealthy plantation family: no shortage of beds there. And Lincoln was offered a private bedroom of his own in the home of a wealthy lawyer and his wife a few blocks away, but turned it down in favor of sharing the bed with Speed.

    If it was necessity that drove them to share the bed, it surely wasnтАЩt the necessity that the historians are referring to.

    ThatтАЩs not the end of the story. Lincoln continues sharing beds with men, even in the White House. He invites the young captain of the guard to share the Presidential bed when Mary Todd is out of town on shopping trips, a fact noted by contemporaries, who found it queer.

    Am I arguing that Lincoln was homosexual? IтАЩll give the answer away right now: that question is probably unanswerable. In the end, LincolnтАЩs same-sex bed sharing may mean less than its proponents want, but more than its opponents allow. The truth may lie somewhere in between, in a third category: messy.

    In the meantime, there are plenty of other interesting questions. Why was the Speed store demolished, while the house that Lincoln set up with Mary Todd, a few blocks away, was preserved as a museum?
    When General Sherman needed 10,000 rifles for the Union Army, and couldnтАЩt get them through the chain of command, why did he call Joshua Speed, who was able to get them for him?

    Why didnтАЩt Kentucky join the Confederacy, and how important were the Speeds in keeping Kentucky a so-called border state?

    Did a gay relationship save the Union? That is the third rail of the Lincoln story, and it is my strange destiny to touch it with both hands.

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