Molested bar bois

[Dboy]

http://www.jimhopper.com/male-ab/

http://1in6.org/

http://www.sesamenet.org/male_vics.html

http://www.ptsd.va.gov/public/pages/chi ... -abuse.asp

[danny99]

I have some fresh statistics on this..in the US, 1/6 of boys are molested.

I have great problem with the word 'molested'. Or to quote police reports and the wild press...touched inappropiately!

Many teenboys from all levels of home background, make friends with a mature guy who they can relax with, and more often than not enjoy the occasional HJ [or BJ if you are American]...is this molesting?

Funny how these same boys keep returning at all hours 'just to say hello'!

Funny how these American lads allegedly get a BJ when the rest of the worlds boys apparently have to settle for a HJ.

I also have difficulty believing this is run-of-the-mill behaviour at all.

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[francois]

Funny how these American lads allegedly get a BJ when the rest of the worlds boys apparently have to settle for a HJ.
I also have difficulty believing this is run-of-the-mill behaviour at all.
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HJ = Head Job??

[Brad the Impala]

http://www.jimhopper.com/male-ab/

http://1in6.org/

http://www.sesamenet.org/male_vics.html

http://www.ptsd.va.gov/public/pages/chi ... -abuse.asp

I find these sources lacking in credibility, given that the first two seem to be part of the "Recovered Memory of Sexual Abuse" and ritual satanic abuse school, that caused so many children to unjustifiably be removed from their families on the flimsiest of evidence. Most of the children were subsequently returned to their families as this theory was discredited. The theory had been that the abused had suppressed memories of their abuse, but that specialist psychologists could reach into their subconscious and expose it.

The last two link starts by stating " it is known that..." and "it is believed that........." quoting statistics without any source.

[maisoui]

It is hard for Westerners to understand that not everyone in Thai society has "equal opportunity" though Thais may even have a college education or the smarts to excel in a job. Where you come from, your name, knowing the right people and evern your age and looks can decide if you are ripe for employment or not.

Just like anywhere. I didn't go to Eton so am not likely to become PM of the UK or Thailand. When I was in my early twenties a yakuza, whom I was smitten by, working the St. James club scene, groomed me and offered me an escort connection with a well-known actor who must be bisexual. If I hadn't declined I might not be in my current position. My mothers family were landowning English nobility and my father's family flotsam of the imperial regiments*, like Anna Leonowens. You are who you construct yourself as and nobody constructs themselves as simplistically as the roles talked about on this board.

Both my grandfather and I have served in Poonah/Pune - he as a Lance Corporal and me overseeing the development of software for a major global bank.

[Beachlover]

I have some fresh statistics on this..in the US, 1/6 of boys are molested.

I have great problem with the word 'molested'. Or to quote police reports and the wild press...touched inappropiately!

Many teenboys from all levels of home background, make friends with a mature guy who they can relax with, and more often than not enjoy the occasional HJ [or BJ if you are American]...is this molesting?

Funny how these same boys keep returning at all hours 'just to say hello'!

Yes... if the teenager is under the age of consent and you're an adult, then it's both wrong and illegal.

Them coming back doesn't justify it. You don't let a drug dealer go just because his addicts "kept coming back just to say hello" do you?

I'm intrigued with the idea above - that there are two "tests" - one being the legality (which is clear-cut) and the other being Beachy's idea of what he considers to be "wrong"

So, Beachy, let's say hypothetically that a teenager is OVER the age of consent and the other partner is an adult who is considerably older - is that "wrong" too (let's assume the teenager isn't retarded and there's no coercion involved).

Do you actually accept at all, that some teenagers may be genuinely attracted to older men?
Or do you just have a knee-jerk reaction to the whole idea?

In your answer, if you could avoid conflating such an idea with drug-dealers, serial killers, or insane zombie axemen on the loose, it would be helpful - not to mention more credible.

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[Beachlover]

let's say hypothetically that a teenager is OVER the age of consent and the other partner is an adult who is considerably older - is that "wrong" too

Not wrong. But I don't think that's the scenario Danny99 is referring to when he talks about boys/girls being molested.

Do you actually accept at all, that some teenagers may be genuinely attracted to older men?

Yes... totally. The fact that he/she might be attracted to an older man doesn't make it right for the older man/woman to take advantage of him/her.

I mean, that would be like a serial killer taking advantage of the fact that a hitchhiker voluntarily got in his car.

[quote=Beachlover]

let's say hypothetically that a teenager is OVER the age of consent and the other partner is an adult who is considerably older - is that "wrong" too

Not wrong. But I don't think that's the scenario Danny99 is referring to when he talks about boys/girls being molested.

Do you actually accept at all, that some teenagers may be genuinely attracted to older men?

Yes... totally. The fact that he/she might be attracted to an older man doesn't make it right for the older man/woman to take advantage of him/her.

I mean, that would be like a serial killer taking advantage of the fact that a hitchhiker voluntarily got in his car.[/quote:3amgeck7]

which is pretty much like saying .. now look here young man/woman .. we know that you prefer to have sex with older men/woman .. but it is not allowed .. we know it isnt against the law.. but ...we can not allow you to be taken avantage of .... so now its no sex for you until you understand how wrong this is ...and once you understand it you will be forced to have sex with younger people of a simular age to yourself ....
* the laws of sex* by beachlover at all good bookstores now...