two gay suicides in usa

[Wesley]

http://www.glsen.org/cgi-bin/iowa/al...ecord/399.html

40 % gay compared to 10 % straight high schools students in Massachusetts , they seem to suffer an unusual rate of suicides a year. I wonder how many here consider it. I was talking to a guy who said to me it seemed to be the only way out. His parents are religious the straights Bully him and he is as rich as hell, so why die he is only 21. I wonder what the rate there in Thailand is, since Asians tend to feel more uncomfortable with this than most Europeans.

( see above (URL) for a rather long Article on the issue

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[maxdamron]

Sadly enough, this week alone there were two gay teens who committed suicide, one in New Jersey and the other in Texas. A 13 year old boy who was bullied for both being gay and being a Buddhist shot himself after enduring ongoing bullying from classmates. The parents went to the school and were not even given the courtesy of a meeting with the administration. The school completely turned their back on the situation and now claim that they had no idea of what was going on. In New Jersey, a freshman at Rutgers University was the victim of the most humiliating form of bullying. He had asked his roommate to give him their room for a few hours even though he knew his roommate was a homophobe. The roommate turned on his computer and pointed the webcam to the victim's bed. This poor kid had his session with a friend streamed live on the net. The bastard went so far as to tweet what was going on so more would watch. Our young gay brother, a talented violinist wrote on his blog that he was going to the George Washington Bridge to jump. And he did.
When will this end?

[Beachlover]

Did you hear about the American college student who killed himself after his room mate filmed and put a video of him having sex with another guy in their dorm room online? Freaking terrible...

[jinks]

after his room mate filmed and put a video of him having sex with another guy in their dorm room online? Freaking terrible...

The roommate turned on his computer and pointed the webcam to the victim's bed. This poor kid had his session with a friend streamed live on the net.

Is it currently the fashion to record sex?

[Brad the Impala]

Same horrible incident

[Beachlover]

Oh yeah, I didn't read the post above mine... too thick with words.

Jinks, take a look at xtube.com ... plenty of recorded sex there LOL. Except in most cases people are aware they're being recorded.

What that room mate did was unbelievably slack. I wouldn't say he killed the guy but he did breech his privacy in a huge way, which resulted in his suicide.

[maxdamron]

Beachlover, I could not possibly agree with you more. More to the point, so does the state of New Jersey which is charging the two students with invasion of privacy and are looking into charging them with a hate crime. What is even more amazing to me is that this horribly tragic episode has exploded all over the media here. CNN is doing a whole week of reports on bullying. Rutgers University has expelled the two students and has held 3 vigils in memory of the young man. I just wonder if this was the event that will galvanize the public here to stand up against bullying in general and gay bullying in particular. I guess only time will tell.

[Beachlover]

It'll definitely shine a spotlight on the unique emotional challenges young gay people face and go some way towards changing society's attitudes, understanding and behaviour in relation to gay people. All for the better.

I think these things take time and events like these help them progress.

For example, I reckon five years ago, using term, "partner" wasn't that common. Now a days I hear straight/married couples use the term, "my partner" instead of "my boyfriend/girlfriend/wife/husband" more often than not. So much so that I'm meeting someone new I'm often left hanging whether "their partner" is a guy or girl (i.e. are they straight or gay)! I only get to know if they start referring to "their partner" as him or her in conversation.

This kind of thing makes gay people blend into society that much more seamlessly (e.g. makes gay couples nothing out of the ordinary).

[Impulse]

I don't think the blame should be totally on his roomate.sure,it was wrong what he did,but it's more of a culmination of events in this guy's life.
The church,his family,etc,all leading him to feeling shame for being gay.It's more society in general.It's too bad that at his young age,his world in college is everything to him.Just like high schoolers thinking their whole world revolves around what their peers think of them.
There is life after school and social pressure.Hell,too bad he wasn't aware of thailand.He could have started over there.

[Beachlover]

You're totally right.

That's why a gay couple in the US has started this terrific, "It Gets Better" campaign aimed at teens and young gays. It really hits the nail on the head.

It hasn't gone past being a YouTube channel yet (not that this is anything to sneeze at) so I hope it expands:
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http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-te ... 16a69.html

Gay community sends video message: It gets better
LEANNE ITALIE
October 8, 2010 - 11:20AM

David Valdes Greenwood was 15 when he climbed to the highest arch of a bridge in his small Maine town and got ready to jump.

It was 1982. He was distraught over a pastor's Sodom and Gomorrah sermon that his homosexuality would bring God's wrath down on everyone around him. He didn't think his friends, family and fellow churchgoers deserved to suffer because he was gay.

"It had never occurred to me that I would wound people by my simply existing," Greenwood said. "And it seemed kind of true."

So he became that boy on the Sophie May Lane Bridge in Norridgewock. Thankfully, a neighbor walked by and shouted for him to stop fooling around up there _ and he listened, then he fled town the first chance he got.

All grown up, married to a man he loves with a 5-year-old daughter they adore, the 43-year-old Greenwood hopes gay young people in pain will now listen to him. So do hundreds of others who, like Greenwood, have taken to YouTube to make a promise: If you hang on through the self-doubt, the coming out years, through the slurs, the isolation at school and being slammed up against the lockers, through the rejection and anger of parents and grandparents, it gets better. A whole lot better.

Moved by a recent spate of suicides by teens who were believed to be victims of anti-gay bullying, syndicated relationship and sex advice columnist Dan Savage began the YouTube project Sept. 21, hoping it would turn into exactly what it is: A destination for gay young people to receive comfort from a variety of perspectives on their Internet home turf.

There's a gay cop and an ex-Mormon, a young Muslim from a conservative Pakistani home, gay parents showing off photos of their kids and an openly gay Baptist minister.

Mixed in with somber stories of suicide attempts are a sassy lesbian cartoon, a video with gay men surrounded by shirtless male hotties, and a sprinkling of celebrities: Ellen DeGeneres, Tim Gunn from "Project Runway," Chris Colfer from "Glee" and blogger Perez Hilton, who went to a Jesuit high school in Miami and said in his contribution, "I would have loved to have had me around when I was a teenager."

There are gay people who confess THEY were the bullies and people with guitars singing. Cities and campuses (San Francisco, Smith College) are represented. There's also a lot of anger and frustration that the middle and high school years for so many gay youth haven't changed all that much since Greenwood was a kid.

"I really, really believed that kids killing themselves over being gay was a relic of another time," Greenwood, a writer and English instructor at Tufts University near Boston, said in an interview. "I mean, it was nearly 30 years ago when I climbed my bridge. I thought that even kids who were bullied now had online communities or other ways of feeling hope about their identities."

Savage, a gay rights activist who also writes books, travels the country speaking, but he knows many towns and schools will never invite him. That's one reason he set up the "It Gets Better" channel on YouTube and asked for video stories, starting with himself and his partner, Terry.

In two weeks, the channel has racked up more than a million views, the number of videos has exploded from a handful to 1,000 submitted, comment threads are growing and e-mails are pouring in from bullied and closeted teens.

"We're totally overwhelmed by the response," Savage said. "The most gratifying are parents sitting down at the computer and watching with their kids. So many kids, they're bullied at school by their peers, they go home to homophobic parents who bully them, and then they're dragged to church on Sunday for more bullying from the pulpit."

Sitting in an airport reading about the deaths of Minnesota 15-year-old Justin Aaberg and 15-year-old Billy Lucas, who killed himself in his family's barn in Greenburg, Ind., Savage knew the power of his own story, his years in Catholic boys schools as the son of a church deacon and a lay minister.

"High school was bad," Savage said. "I was picked on because I liked musicals. I was obviously gay."

But his parents came around. So did his partner's family in Spokane, Wash., where Terry was stuffed into bathroom stalls and school officials dismissed his parents' complaints about bullying as a natural consequence of being gay. They've been together 16 years and adopted their 12-year-old son, D.J., at birth.

"I didn't think when I came out to my parents in the very early 1980s when AIDS was slamming into the gay community that I would ever be a dad," Savage said in their video.

It's been 40 years since Stephen Sprinkle was in high school. At 58, he rocks gently in an office chair, his trim gray beard and gentle smile offering a touch of Santa Claus in his video. He describes his Christian upbringing in rural North Carolina and his decision to deny himself an "affectional life" as a gay man when he received his call to the ministry in his 20s.

"It made me lonely for a lot of years," he tells his viewers, as he constantly looked over his shoulder and lived in fear he would slip up and reveal his secret.

It wasn't until he was hired as an assistant professor at Brite Divinity School in Fort Worth, Texas, that he decided to come out "utterly, fully and completely," surviving attempts to have him fired and earning tenure, Sprinkle said in an interview.

Since posting the video, he's heard from several young people, including one so upset that Sprinkle tracked down professional help.

"He's 18. He's a closeted religious person and he told me he was afraid he was going to explode," Sprinkle said. "He kept asking over and over, `Does God hate me?' I said 'Heavens, no. God created you beautiful and complete. God makes no mistakes like that.'"

Nicholas Wheeler, a graphic designer who grew up Mormon in Idaho, said he no longer thinks much about God. He made his video because he knows that other kids from conservative, religious backgrounds "don't make it out alive. It breaks my heart."

Wheeler, 26, said being gay didn't fit into the picture in his head of how his life would turn out. In deep denial for years, he didn't come out until 2008, after going on a two-year church mission trip at 20. He had to dismiss his thoughts "of gay people as evil and unhappy."

His turning point came after he moved to Salt Lake City, where he met lots of gay ex-Mormons, and stopped thinking of himself as a sinner. Things aren't perfect, but "I'm leaps and bounds happier than I was," he said in an interview.

So is 28-year-old Bruce Ortiz, who works in marketing in Chicago. He tried to kill himself with a bottle of pills as a freshman in college. Healing was slow but steady after he opened up to his parents about being gay. He and his partner just bought a house together and are thinking about starting a family.

Ortiz's video message to young people: "It's not worth the attempt. Just go out there, find your support system, find that support system within yourself, because life does get better."

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http://www.youtube.com/user/itgetsbetterproject

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