Brad will never win against The Bookburners - https://sawatdeenetwork.com/v4/showt...No-platforming
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Brad will never win against The Bookburners - https://sawatdeenetwork.com/v4/showt...No-platforming
It's fine for you and Goji to have other posters on ignore, it's just not great for everyone else having an echo on the board that repeats what someone else has already written/linked to. There is obviously no way of checking a duplication without reading the post!
yeah - and just imagine how good it would be if that one poster didn't bother posting under their usual multiple handles, leading to people to not HAVE to put them on ignore in the first place !
Just imagine if they perhaps started posting just like a sane normal person for a change, who didn't sit replying to their own posts under different names and carrying on conversations "with themselves" like a crazy person - wouldn't that be just great - in the meantime while that's still being allowed to happen people are quite right and quite entitled to put them on ignore - for the sake of THEIR own sanity if nothing else.
It's not just me and Goji that have the Board Troll and his hydras on "ignore", it's the majority of active members who do most of the posting here who have them on "ignore". So for us, there's no concern about reading duplicate posts.
If you're bothered by having to read duplicate posts, then why are you reading duplicate posts? The posts that have you upset now both pertain to "the reopening of Thailand". It says so right in the titles. That being the case, you didn't even have to bother opening the duplicate, making the basis of your complaint meritless.
It's not the duplicate post that has you upset. It's something else. And that's something you'll have to work out with yourself. Don't continue to derail our discussions with your baseless complaints. It's getting to be a bit much.
Now that you've involved yourself in 2 posts pertaining to the same topic, is there a reason why you didn't contribute to the topic?
Oh my god...
You guys really need to give some acting lessons to the women on those "The Real House Wives of..." shows. YOu'd be able to teach them a thing or two about drama.
1 I'll carry on using the ignore feature as I see fit. I highly recommend it to ignore people who never add anything positive to the discussion. I have just added one participant in this thread to the list today.
2 It would be preferable if people refrain from quoting those on IGNORE lists purely so we don't miss their posts. We INTEND to miss their posts, so please only quote them if there is a specific reply you are making to their content.
Of course there is no obligation to do that, but anyone mainly quoting ignored members can easily be added to my ignore list.
3 If I or other members occasionally & accidentally duplicate something by an ignored member and that is unacceptable for certain people, they are free to put me or the other members on their ignore lists.
Complaining is unlikely to be effective, particularly when we don't even see the complaints.
[Long list of ignored posts to follow]
In the many years I’ve been on this board only lately do I use the ignore function however, by continuing the conversation about said trolls you in fact feed them the attention they need to continue so ignore them as well and don’t bother with a discussion about them.
I'm sorry Goji but you don't have the right to expect others to not quote those on your ignore list. It's an infringement.
If every member kindly sends me their full ignore list I will endeavour not to quote anybody on it.
The thing is I, for one, don't believe all the paranoia about so many posters being someone else. You suspect that some posters may be multiple hydras, but Moses denies it. We know, or suspect, that some posters have previously posted under other names, but no one to my satisfaction has demonstrated beyond reasonable that anyone has posted under multiple handles at the same time.
If all these names that are bandied about as heads of hydras actually were hydras, aren't the Gang of Five just drawing attention to them by continuously stating this. What is that going to achieve......? Can't you all just ignore, in the normal way, those people who you believe to be hydras without making such a song and dance about it!
Have we had many new posters joining us recently? No because as soon as they appear they are jumped on as clones by the Gang of Five. They may be or they may not be, but can't people just take as they find! If you don't want to engage with a poster don't, but just because you don't want to there is no need to exhort everyone else to ignore or abuse!
Apologies NIrish, this is not all directed at you alone, but at the group who share your stated perspective.
For me, a couple of the people referred to as clones are actually the most perceptive and knowledgeable about real Thailand as opposed to Pattaya of all the posters here, and they have very different viewpoints and are absolutely not the same person. I say that, puffing out chest, as someone who has been visiting Thailand as backpacker, as employee, as businessman and holidaying as entitled visitor, for 50 years.
I would just note also that the Gang of Five have all been on the wrong side of a particular acerbic tongue, as have I, but that doesn't justify a campaign to get said poster banned or ignored. It's the internet, it's a forum, it isn't a fireside chat, get over it. I, for one again, am happy that writing complacent bullshit is called out on this forum.
Noted - and nor should it be and as far as I'm concerned there is no 'gang" of anything - I think for myself and the fact that others seem to have reached the same conclusions is just not so surprising as far as I can see. The fact the you hold a different view doesn't make you a gang of "one" ( or two or however other many people may share you view) - that's just your opinion, which you're as equally entitled to hold as I and others are of course.
And re banning anyone, I dont believe I've ever called for that, I simply believe we should all have one profile and post under it as per the rules for the long term good of the board in general, it's really not that much of a thing to expect perhaps with such a small number of posters and the subjects that we cover I would have thought.
But as I said to Moses when I last commented on this topic a while ago now ago ( as like others I REALLY couldn't be arsed even getting into it anymore here as the whole thing has just become farcical in my opinion and personally have just started posting elsewhere now again when I feel like it to avoid all this nonsense). Bottom line - It's Moses' board, his rules and he's made his view very clear on the subject so that's that - and as I said to him back then - "good luck!"
As to whether posters use the ignore function or "literally" just ignore a poster ( and their hydras) is of totally up to them each of course and this is the whole point of the "ignore" function and why it's provided . We can't really complain about someone posting a topic close to a similar topic that may have coincidentally posted already by someone who THEY have on ignore, when of course they wouldn't have seen that post in the first place- that's hardly that 2nd posters fault.
Also when posters then decide to "repost" a posters comments "for information" ( or no good reason some might say) that too simply defeats the whole purpose of the ignore function surely for those who have chosen to use it, meaning those like myself who dont bother using the ignore button ( for the very reasons outlined above ) just end up having to read the same post concerned multiple times over - with THAT then perhaps leading to posters starting to use the ignore button ! This then just adding to the problem of the communication between members just going round and round in ever decreasing circles until it disappears up it's own arse - perhaps for good.
But anyway, like I said to Moses "good luck" - I for one simply ignore what I dont like here and move on as best I can - just as you seem to be suggesting- others can and should and are entitled to do just whatever THEY please too of course.
Gad! A six page nothing. Heap big smoke, but no fire.
The Gang of Five!!!
Who are they?
Who's the leader, treasurer, attack dog etc.
The most famous Chinese gang was The Gang of Four but if you add Mao then it's five. After his death all were arrested. Even today Chinese politics are the most interesting. Like Game of Thrones, you win or you die. Virtually medieval in operation.
What I find amusing little stevie is the fact you're so irritated by the members who've got you on ignore. It's about 5 or 6 or roughly half the active membership, right? Your fury at Dodger and Goji who led the exodus from your posts is wondetful to behold and a daily treasure.
How is life on Fantasy Island, Q? Just because you have no sense of humour that’s no reason to impute such a failure to others. Weren’t you once outraged by a poster who said he wasn’t interested in posting for the hoi polloi but for the Forum elite? I’ve made a similar point on at least two occasions recently to my #1 fan here, gerefan2. Perhaps you should ask him.
Brad Quote:
The thing is I, for one, don't believe all the paranoia about so many posters being someone else. You suspect that some posters may be multiple hydras, but Moses denies it. We know, or suspect, that some posters have previously posted under other names, but no one to my satisfaction has demonstrated beyond reasonable that anyone has posted under multiple handles at the same time.
Dodger:
What you believe is your prerogative. You have no right to tell others what they should, or should not believe.
Brad Quote:
Can't you all just ignore, in the normal way, those people who you believe to be hydras without making such a song and dance about it!
Dodger:
You are the one who started this song and dance. Then when the music got too loud, you started casting personal insults and trying to rationalize your position.
Brad Quote:
Have we had many new posters joining us recently? No because as soon as they appear they are jumped on as clones by the Gang of Five.
Dodger:
New posters join because they enjoy the discussions that take place on a Board like this, not to listen to a bunch of repetitive bullshit about Trolls. I put our resident Troll(s) on “ignore” months ago and have never once mentioned our Troll(s) since putting him (them) on “ignore”. You’re the one who pulled the Troll into this topic, not anyone else. Who are you kidding?
Furthermore, if you’re truly interested in gaining new members, why don’t you try posting something of interest yourself, instead of just sitting back in the bleachers casting insults and criticizing those of us who are actually making an effort?
Brad Quote:
I would just note also that the Gang of Five have all been on the wrong side of a particular acerbic tongue, as have I, but that doesn't justify a campaign to get said poster banned or ignored.
Dodger:
No member has to justify anything to you regarding their choice to ignore someone. You clearly don’t like the position that others have taken, but that’s simply none of your business.
Brad, it’s apparent (to me anyway) that somewhere along the road your ego’s been bruised. This has nothing to do with “Trolls”, it has to do with your ego. Not wanting to contribute to this condition, I would ask you to please just put me on “ignore” and call it a day. Life’s too short for this type of meaningless dribble!
Little stevie is denying that he's furious at the ignore cartel who've collectively dismembered his ego. Yeah right.
Yet Dodgems persists with “this meaningless dribble” in post after post after post. “dribble” is what those with dementia sometimes do I’m told; the literate amongst would have said “drivel”.
Dodger:
You have no right to tell others what they should....
Dodger:
Who are you kidding?
Little stevie is licking his wounds and has sent mrgiggles into the fray. Sglad is waiting in the wings if really creepy shit is required.
Stevie, Have you tried Olanzapine?
My only “problem” is a total inability to take people seriously - and the more seriously they take themselves the less seriously I take them. It’s not a difficult concept. It’s called “inverse relationship”
Alternatively you could try this tongue-in-cheek post: https://sawatdeenetwork.com/v4/showt...No-platforming
As a Pastafarian with a particular devotion to Saint @TitaniaMcGrath I've always found Dodgems' insights into Thai Buddhism, especially the role of the Spirit House, invaluable. I was going to say "lifelong Pastafarian" but then my adolescence was spent an Anglican boarding school with chapel at least once a day (and sodomy in the dorm after Lights Out).
"Bosie turned against everyone at one time or another."
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arsenal, could you please avoid such comparations? Thank you.
Moses
Which comparison am I being asked to refrain from? Outing Mr Multi Handles or the no one likes him bit.