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I love reading the experience on these forums. You guys defo have so much experience.
For a newbee like me can you let me know the etiquette of massage?
1) do you ask about top/Btm preference up front?
2) if they are hung ?
3) what they are willing to do?
I have always found myself (my limited experience) paired with whoever was available
I bet there are better strategies…
Please share your experience :)
Where to start.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Aussie1978
Walking into a massage parlor you've never visited before is the most challenging because you don't know the staff. This being the case you can either talk to the manager/mamasan and describe in detail what your preferences are - or just select a boy who looks good to you and provide this information to him once you're alone in the massage booth. Personally I just go with the flow and let things evolve naturally. I find that little bit of mystery to be extremely erotic. To each his own.
Massage boys are no different than bar boys when it comes to delivering their services. If you return to the same parlor often and get to know the staff you can then maneuver a bit more towards a boy who is the perfect match for you.
All massage boys understand that a "happy ending" is part of the service. If you prefer having oral and/or anal sex as part of the service this is considered an "extra" service and it would be customary to tip a bit more for this. Some boys will tell you this up front - and some will give you the traditional "Up2U".
Most boys will be happy with a 500 baht tip for a standard "happy ending". If you also give or receive a blowjob you might want to tip a bit more. If you have intercourse (top or bottom) I always tipped between 1,000 and 1,500 - the same as I used to tip for short time sex with bar boys. I know some farang who tip more and some who tip less - but this is just intended to give you a rough idea.
Most parlors allow their staff to be taken off for a 500 baht off fee if you ever have the interest.
One technique I've used many times when visiting a boy massage parlor for the first time is to ask for a foot massage first. I use that one hour while I'm sitting in a chair to observe the staff more closely and then pick the one who I fancy the most. Watching the boys interacting with each other during that time can also tell you a a bit about their personalities.
Once you return to the same parlor several times the staff (all of them) know everything there is to know about you, i.e. what turns you on, how you want the session to end, how big your penis is, how much you tip, etc., etc., so don't worry about always having to explain yourself when you're going back to the same parlor. They already know.
As far as the scope of services the boys are willing provide, again, I find this to be exactly the same as the variation in services we experience with the bar boys - which only makes sense. Half of them are str8, with the rest being a mix of gay, bi, ladyboy, and a few who don't have the foggiest clue yet.
Happy sailing!
Thanks these are awesome tips.. love the foot massage idea (allowing to scope out the talent).
I wonder if there are any other key tips people have from experienced pros for a new bee :)
I do agree with most of what you posted with one exception. I tip 1000 Baht for a massage which does include a happy ending, but never has anyone ever expressed anything other than a wai, if that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodger
Not thrilled or happy or sad or disappointed or anything else. No one has ever gushed over my tip or seemed disappointed, nothing.
francois the massage guys get ridden more than a rental bike...probably 4 to 6 times a day...its not a novelty...its a business...to expect them to gush over a tip is expecting too much....
...also I enjoy the challenge of a new place...have no hesitation is telling the receptionist i want a bottom...some places the guys are hovering outside which gives me the opportunity to engage in some light banter and even grope/fondle them...if im allowed to slip my hands under their shoirts and play with the hole then there is no doubt we are onto a winner...i never leave things to chance...partner and i will go for a walk about and come across a parlour thats hes been to and will encounter a masseuse that hes enjoyed, we will openly discuss him publicly like we are buying a piece of furniture before i march him inside for a good time..some funny situations when i meet my partrner at the parlour as hes just finishedand as he's leaving will exclaim what a good time hes just had , ill not even give the masseuse a break, grab him and enjoy round 2 with me..
dodger seems to be describing mostly the Pattaya joints.
Here in BKK my exp is a little different. In fact the recently new started crop of such shops round Sapan kwai show all you ask for in their pix of the guys on offer- be aware that 99% of them are from the real Laos or Cambodia/Burma. Some not speaking any Thai at all. Besides the usual length/weight they also show position (>80% claim to be chay tae= real men) and a nr as 52/4/6=condom size (thickness). It also shows MIN tip (mostly from 7/800 up) and yes, confirm, I´ve done it nearly a dozen times now, this includes EVERything, not just a simply HJ. Up to the extent that guys even start to apologize they do not have the change from a grey note.........As if I would even have expected that. Quite a few of those guys still fairly new on the job are not used to whitey´s-yet. In 1 shop the guys available right them were shown life-subdivided into T-only or ´versa´. None, repeat none of these shops even offer foot-msg-some not even classic (no oil) Thai msg. The standard order is oil msg (or aroma=with a scent). All do private rooms only and with shower-in or out of that room. Do not expect too much of skills for specific msg-but it may be on offer. For the rest there is no real ´etiquette´-just let it happen and it will turn out OK-the whole procedure as such can even be done in complete silence-but I myself am not curious but only want to know everything so I always start some conversation and often this may turn into hilarious laughing. I speak enough of Thai for that.
Another long standing site with such shops is ThaiMassageboy-but as this is paid advertise for long time, it also still shows Prince and New Hero-as for now still closed.
I never ever have discussed before all the whats if and dos/donts and cases that it did not turn out are less as 1%=probably even lower as with ´normal meets´ for a 1st time. As 1st time I start with 1 hr-if I get the feeling this guy is the right one, I will ask for him next time and do 1,5 hr-that way my very best friend for many yrs was found once. A well-known exception for its always offered special services is Arena in Silom Plaza/BKK-just find any of the multitude of reviews for that. This is NOT a place that will appeal latin.
Pattaya does remain an exception in many cases-and latin too in his puberescent ways to drooggeilen. He must be a slow learner in that till now he still has not grasped that jokes are only 1 time funny-and boring after. Or perhaps he has been too long away from the fruits of joy here..........
The easiest/best way to get to know a guy better-if he also agrees, is swapping line/fone nrs, some also do whatsapp-for later-to avoid that silly 500 bt off fee. Most shops also do saving-cards for regulars: like after X times you get 1 time free or big discount.
The usual term for the man in charge (not mamasan) is captain or sometimes just ´manager´ in those shops. The guys themselves will usually name him ´boss´-though the real owner of that shop in the end is usually far, far away. But in slack times it may simply one of the guys who knows how to handle all those electronics and for you, special service, perhaps the one who speekee the beetee of angkrit=/en/
Valid point.Quote:
Originally Posted by pong
You may or may not agree with what I'm about to say - but I have to say it anyway:Quote:
Originally Posted by francois
When a Thai is handed a tip (for any service) they usually (not always) respond in very distinguishable ways if you know what to look for:
- They will almost always thank you regardless if they're happy with the tip amount or not. (conflict avoidance)
- If you're a stranger to them they will almost always "wai" when thanking you. (more formal)
- If they know you they may or may not include a "wai" when thanking you. (less formal)
- If they look directly into your eyes when thanking you (with or without a "wai) they are most likely pleased with the tip amount.
- If they look down at the ground when they thank you (with or without a "wai) they are possibly not pleased with the tip amount.
These behavior patterns are inherent in all Thai culture and not isolated to the massage business. Knowing this little bit about Thai "body language" may be very helpful.
Signing off
Dalai Dodger
ha, for once, actually been more than once i agree with dodger, the joyous sparkle in their ey eswhen thye look at you directly when happy with the tip...hadnt actually connected the dots...
I certainly will not find myself paired with whoever is available. In many cases, I don't find (either present or on pictures) anyone who is my type and I will walk out and go elsewhere (the gay massages are mostly in clusters).Quote:
Originally Posted by Aussie1978
The extreme case was asking for a masseur Non (by showing manager his picture), taking shower, waiting in massage room and in walks another boy of the same name Non. Sorry for wasting your and my time, but not the one I was looking for, bye. (No money changed hands, of course.)
For some of the all-male massages in Silom, I'm not sure if happy ending is their standard mode of operation or has to be negotiated. In Saphan Khwai / Inthamara, it's clear, and prices are a lot cheaper. It has been years that I had a happy ending massage, any massage actually, in Silom.
Good advice actually! How much do you tip in this case if the average foot massage is 200 baht?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodger
Nonsense. THOse tipical real m2m shops do not offer any foot-msg. Some do not even offer normal Thai (only oil etc-where yo have to get out of clothes anyway). That is again for BKK-on my last day now, have to pack for going Swampy and been to around 10 of such in this period-5 new ones for me, all in Sapan kwai.
Plus that these shops tend to be more quiet-often you will not seen anyone else. The guys are hidden too-sometimes they organise a quick line-up for choosing.
Yes-in this touristy area far away from Silom where I stay it also brims with normal msg shops, most shown price for feet or Thai is 150/250 for 30/60 mins-tipping is completely optional and if you give a green note its often a big surprise for them. Last time after a long day of tedious walking I hit a fairly young guy-masked etc, who to my utter surprise told me he got his training right after 18 at Wat Po (frankly-this is often seen as a plus, for me rather reverse) and @ 24 now had done that job-hiatus in covid times, since then. NOte: you cannot choose, it goes by rotation in these shops. Most workers tend to be those Isany ladies of at least 40 yrs-of some I suspect having had a former career around Sukhumvit or Silom. All shops will have at least 1 receptionist good in /en/ or maybe even JPNese for info/explaining and service/paying. IN tipical touristy areas it seems more or less the norm to tip normal msg-in Thai areas this is not done nor needed. Cheapest around here is on a mat on the streets near the 1000s of homeless for 100 bt/hr-Thai only. Of course without shower etc. Cheapest in normal shop for Thai I noted was 150 bt/hr in Happyland/Bangkapi by elderly ladies-who can still be very strong in their hands.
So back to your Q; even a 10% tip is generous for normal/no extra. PRIME-in Sliom soi 6, famous mostly among ASEANs for no extra hanky-panky but right behind the 6-7 such shops in the dogleg-stated MIN tip there is 100 bt-it is always praised as giving excellent service by very well-trained staff-this is quite high.
But again: BKK and Pattaya in many respects seem to be worlds apart.
To be honest I over tip a bit at massage parlors - and usually tip 100 baht for a foot massage. I think a 40 baht tip would be appreciated and is probably closer to the average.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy
Actually i would usually tip 100B as well.
Interestingly, I went to Green Massage, Surawong, last night thinking of a foot massage. It's a mixed Massage place. I chose a good looking twinkish guy, and he suggested a back massage! As soon as we got to the room, he took his clothes off and we went from there, oral, both ways, I fucked him and he came! No price mentioned, so I gave him 1,500, which seemed to be ok!
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Originally Posted by Keith
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Originally Posted by Dodger
Sorry tried to send emoji, but it didn't work!
green massage is now on my "to do" list when next im in pattaya
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Originally Posted by latintopxxx
I went there for a legitimate foot massage on New Year's Eve, and couldn't help noticing that all masseurs were male, ditto customers. Some masseurs young and good looking. Guys coming down from rooms upstairs looked quite happy, but that may be my imagination!
Keng or Wat both happy to provide full service!Quote:
Originally Posted by latintopxxx
do you remember the mans name???. BB or condom? I want to go back and get a full massage from Moe (got a foot and shoulder). he is a stunningly handsome burmese who seemed eager for more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith
green massage is BKK Surawong road.Quote:
Originally Posted by latintopxxx
Name was WatQuote:
Originally Posted by maump
OR it was -as they do f.e with the newsppr delivery@home guys or a lot more as usual that day for Grab/Panda/Food@home in 11 mins: 1/1 New Yrs extra tip-for good luck upcoming 2566. Plus that THai can enjoy 2 more Nw Yrs still to come: from the Chinese/VNese and their own with the water-splashing ´fun´. Or you call the clients also guys? There is reason for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith
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Originally Posted by Keith
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Originally Posted by maump
I was down sitting drinking with my last night grindr bottom boy {dream boys 27 also found out he did a movie with paublo bravo Thai schoolboy which I have...). Green massage men all came to the place we were at for food. So I got to meet Moe Wat keng, w\o mask. I want more.
Also saw 2 beautiful shorter of stature Twink men with Maha massage shirts at 7-11. They smiled, teased and grabbed their cocks in 7-11 teasing me to follow. I did for a while with their continued encouragement. I wanted to top both of them. .... Another shop to check out
Curiously there are two Green Massage places, one on the main drag, and a smaller one on soi 6. Which was it?
i didn't notice the Soi 6 one... and hte main drag one is quite busy. I tried several times to have the man I wanted at green, always busy. all the big shops are pretty busy at 9 pm on ..
As I walked there a few days ago around 14-15 (to visit X-one exchange): go that time, all empty and as you know as Thai old hand: then you are the very 1st customer of the day who brings in the good luck so will get that very special borikarn phiset=special service!
But one guy turned away in near disgust as I answered in Thai and complimented him on his excellent /en/ angkrit. DK what shop that was.
The latest hype is all about the latest and quite big shop opened there, black/white as NINE-10. Or was that 9-TEN?