New Covid Restrictions as Covid Infections Mounting

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand...nces-announced

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The new measures, which will be implemented for 30 days from Monday, include a ban on restaurant dine-ins in Bangkok and five surrounding provinces of Nonthaburi, Pathum Thani, Samut Praka, Samut Sakhon and Nakhon Pathom, according to a document published in the Royal Gazette on Saturday night.

Shopping malls in Bangkok and the five provinces must be closed by 9pm, and parties or celebrations, or activities involving a gathering of more than 20 people will be banned for the same duration, the document said.

It also said construction sites in the six areas will be shut down and workers' camps will be sealed off to contain clusters. The order followed the emergence of more clusters in construction camps in the capital, which has 575 such sites housing about 81,000 workers.

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Oh great - three overlapping threads on the same topic.

What's even more concerning is the fact that they are now over-capacity for performing covid tests in Bangkok, and people are being turned away. The data they've been collecting to track covid cases will now be skewed to hell and back, and there's no more hospital beds to boot.

The icing on the cake is not having a vaccine. Too much fun!

Well, at least we'll have another year without those monster tour buses.

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Originally Posted by Dodger

What's even more concerning is the fact that they are now over-capacity for performing covid tests in Bangkok, and people are being turned away. The data they've been collecting to track covid cases will now be skewed to hell and back, and there's no more hospital beds to boot..

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Incompetence + neglect make for a perfect storm!

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Originally Posted by StevieWonders

Oh great - three overlapping threads on the same topic.

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Indeed. Guido would be lost for words.

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Originally Posted by Brad the Impala

Indeed. Guido would be lost for words.

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There’s always a first time for everything.

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Indeed. Guido would be lost for words.[/QUOE]

Nice to see you're not...(as usual)

Is it time for Brad to start wining again?

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Originally Posted by Dodger

Is it time for Brad to start wining again?

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Do you reckon Dodgems left out an “h” or an “n”? Or did he really mean “wining” as in “wining and dining”?

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Originally Posted by StevieWonders

Do you reckon Dodgems left out an “h” or an “n”? Or did he really mean “wining” as in “wining and dining”?

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Unlike Dodger to leave anything out, more usually it's repetition, so I think it must be "wining and dining". Indeed I have been fortunate enough to be doing quite a lot of that lately, although not with Guido.

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Originally Posted by Brad the Impala

Unlike Dodger to leave anything out, more usually it's repetition, so I think it must be "wining and dining". Indeed I have been fortunate enough to be doing quite a lot of that lately, although not with Guido.

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Let's try whining & dining with Brad.

Hey, that's got a pretty good ring to it.

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Originally Posted by Brad the Impala

Indeed. Guido would be lost for words.[/QUOE]

Nice to see you're not...(as usual)

Is it time for Brad to start wining again?

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Excuse me, aren't you the one always complaining when someone goes off topic in a thread?

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Originally Posted by Dodger

Excuse me, aren't you the one always complaining when someone goes off topic in a thread?

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Do you actually think I'm concerned about what YOU think?

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Originally Posted by Dodger

Do you actually think I'm concerned about what YOU think?

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Dodgems doesn’t care what you think, Matt. If he cared what you think he’d have added you to his personal Bookburner list. He cares enough about what I think to have put me on it. QED.

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Originally Posted by Manforallseasons

Incompetence + neglect make for a perfect storm!

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Yes, the perfect storm, and the Thais who have been vaccinated with the Sinovac vaccine (few as there may be) are going to be standing in the same storm without an umbrella like the rest of the population.

It's already known that the 2 Chinese vaccines, Sinovac and Sinopharm, are even less effective than they were before against the Delta variant. The Pfizer vaccine is highly effective against the Delta variant (as proven in India) but Thailand still refuses to buy it. They claim to have initiated contracts with Pfizer, but conflicting reports keep surfacing from the U.S. Moderna and J&J would also work. Only time will tell.

The Astra Zeneca vaccine is highly effective against the Delta variant and is supposed to be manufactured in Thailand. Eventually.

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Originally Posted by goji

The Astra Zeneca vaccine is highly effective against the Delta variant and is supposed to be manufactured in Thailand. Eventually.

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It's that "Eventually" part that has us worried.

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Originally Posted by Dodger

It's that "Eventually" part that has us worried.

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The facility making Astra Zeneca in Thailand is a manufacturing hub for a few countries, only a third of its production is meant for Thailand,,,,They claim to be able to produce 90 million doses of which Thailand hopefully will receive 30 million doses that will be capable of vaccinating 15 million people with 2 doses….the production at the facility has been sluggish to say the least.

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Originally Posted by Dodger

It's already known that the 2 Chinese vaccines, Sinovac and Sinopharm, are even less effective than they were before against the Delta variant. The Pfizer vaccine is highly effective against the Delta variant (as proven in India) but Thailand still refuses to buy it.

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Originally Posted by goji

The Astra Zeneca vaccine is highly effective against the Delta variant and is supposed to be manufactured in Thailand. Eventually.

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Published month ago in Nature: Moderna, NovaVax, Pfizer and Sputnik - 4 most effective vaccines in World as per science research. All 4 are very close by results.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01377-8

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Originally Posted by Moses

Published month ago in Nature: Moderna, NovaVax, Pfizer and Sputnik - 4 most effective vaccines in World as per science research. All 4 are very close by results.]

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I'm not surprised that Moderna, Pfizer, or Sputnik, rank this high, but I knew very little about Noravax.

Here's a bit of history:

https://inews.co.uk/news/health/nova...uk-made-849686

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Originally Posted by Dodger

It's that "Eventually" part that has us worried.

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Someone I know in Bangkok just received his first shot of Astra Zeneca. Further details can be found on Gaybutton Forum.

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Originally Posted by francois

Someone I know in Bangkok just received his first shot of Astra Zeneca. Further details can be found on Gaybutton Forum.

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According to goji it doesn’t exist.

https://sawatdeenetwork.com/v4/showt...Mounting/page2

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Originally Posted by Dodger

I'm not surprised that Moderna, Pfizer, or Sputnik, rank this high, but I knew very little about Novavax.

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I'm not aware of any Novavax approvals in North America, Europe etc. Apparently they are delaying their regulatory filings, which is not a good sign.
It was one of the vaccines the UK government has signed a supply contract for. Thankfully the government signed supply contracts for several alternatives.

At an individual level, the obvious thing to do is take the first decent vaccine available. Nothing stops you getting something else privately later on & trials for vaccine mixing are quite promising.