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Gay Pattaya 1980 - 2020
I'm busy making a list of Gay Bars, Gay GoGo's, Gay Disco's that ever existed or still exist in Pattaya. I have now about 320 places/names but I have no information about where the following bars were (exact place please).
A Friend Club
Lion Bar
Nova Boys Club
Stary Night
T & M Club
Taboo
Connection
Smile Boys
XXX Club
Rob's Bar on Sunee Plaza
Dragon Hut on Sunee Plaza
Boy Zone GoGo on Sunee Plaza
Sawasdee Bar on Sunee Plaza (not New Sawasdee Bar
and what was the name of the bar in Soi 16 between Walking Street and 2nd Road
What I am looking for is probably to find in Spartacus Guides from 1982 - 1999, but I don't have those.
As soon as I have the answers to the above I will post the (in my opinion) complete list of gay bars/gogo's in Pattaya and that will be a list of around 333 bars/gogo's.
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Welcome to the Forum and good luck with your endeavor!
Enterprises change name or location so frequently, the only way for me to keep track is written notes and pictures. When you present your findings, I might be able to fill some gaps from memory and confirm by notes and pictures.
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Much good luck for that, quite an enterprise. I highly doubt for many you will come any further as ´on Sunee´ or ´in Jomtien komplek´, I think as such thats enough.
Got a place named Filou in it?
In some cities that are very pc and donate big sums to such institutions (lgbta or whatever it is now) there are even gay archives that collect and put on microfile or ´in the cloud´ nowadays, I am pretty sure they have all the various successive Spartacus and maybe even some other listings/guidebooks filed as such. I moved home last year and have thrown away a lot of that old stuff-also stacks of old Thai gay mags that had many advtising for such places. You should have been a few monthes earlier and got it donated. But home is not in TH. Wait-I still kept most of the old TMOT with listings (as so many said this would make good money by selling-I have not tried).
Also the boundary about what is supposed to be gay or not is often very very hazy.
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This website may help you with some maps from the late 90s
http://thairainbowarchive.anu.edu.au...s/contents.htm
From my Memories:
Smile (smiling?) boys was on Soi 15 alley between Walking and 2nd road
I think the bar on Soi 16 was Muttleys, there was also Od's spot?
Could T&M club be T&T Club? If so it was on Sai 2 Soi 18, quite close to the current Pius place
Lion Bar was part of the "Amigo" complex in Sunee Plaza (now elephant hotel)
Boy Zone was on a street east of Sunee (same street as the Austrian Consulate), it later became Playboys
Robs bar was known as "Robs Time Bar" it was in one of the shop houses that become Ting Tong red
Do you have Mandate? It was a gogo bar on the ground floor of Center Condo!
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A Friend Club: Now Panorama in Boyztown but it was a Go Go Bar.
Taboo: Day-Night Plaza. South Pattaya Road then Soi 3 and then a small Soi off that.
T & M: Pattaya Land Soi 1 about where the now closed Kawaii Boys was.
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Thanks all for your response: :))
I think these are for me the last to find. If I got the answers I post the list of about 340 Bars/GoGo's
Bar name ?? Between Walking Street Soi 16-Marina Hotel ( Arabic street) closed (not Muttley's)
Bar name ?? Thapraya Road (outside Complex) opened -closed 2019
Connection where? closed
Dragon Hut Sunee Plaza 1 where? closed
Nova Boys Club where? closed
Sawasdee Bar GoGo (not New Sawadee bar) Sunee Plaza 1 where? closed
Stary Night where? around 1985
XXX Club where? closed
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I suggest you get hold of a copy of Michael Burchill's very readable account of the establishment of Boyztown. Its appendix contains a comprehensive list of establishments.
By the way, Mandate become My Life, Happyness (sic) and then Oscars. It was a beer bar with a small gogo bar upstairs. Staff wore extraordinary tartan shorts.
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Oliver2
I suggest you get hold of a copy of Michael Burchill's very readable account of the establishment of Boyztown. Its appendix contains a comprehensive list of establishments.
By the way, Mandate become My Life, Happyness (sic) and then Oscars. It was a beer bar with a small gogo bar upstairs. Staff wore extraordinary tartan shorts.
I think I have all the bars/gogo's in Boyz Town even without the book that I couldn't get my hands on. Thanks anyway. Hope you know more about the bars that I don't know of :))
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Bar name ?? Between Walking Street Soi 16-Marina Hotel ( Arabic street) closed (not Muttley's)
I thought this might be Sky Boys but that was on the far side of 2nd Road.
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Another thought....wasn't Boy Zone an outpost on Soi Day/Night rather than Sunee? There was also a massage parlour attached to the bar, if my recollection is correct.
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Chuai-Duai
Bar name ?? Between Walking Street Soi 16-Marina Hotel ( Arabic street) closed (not Muttley's)
I thought this might be Sky Boys but that was on the far side of 2nd Road.
Can you be more specific, please :) I never knew about Sky Boys
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Oliver2
Another thought....wasn't Boy Zone an outpost on Soi Day/Night rather than Sunee? There was also a massage parlour attached to the bar, if my recollection is correct.
Sorry. I have no idea about that one being in Day/Night, but maybe someone else can conform any possibility ?
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pong
Much good luck for that, quite an enterprise. I highly doubt for many you will come any further as ´on Sunee´ or ´in Jomtien komplek´, I think as such thats enough.
Got a place named Filou in it?
In some cities that are very pc and donate big sums to such institutions (lgbta or whatever it is now) there are even gay archives that collect and put on microfile or ´in the cloud´ nowadays, I am pretty sure they have all the various successive Spartacus and maybe even some other listings/guidebooks filed as such. I moved home last year and have thrown away a lot of that old stuff-also stacks of old Thai gay mags that had many advtising for such places. You should have been a few monthes earlier and got it donated. But home is not in TH. Wait-I still kept most of the old TMOT with listings (as so many said this would make good money by selling-I have not tried).
Also the boundary about what is supposed to be gay or not is often very very hazy.
I got a lot further than BT, Complex and SP, but can't find the info from old Spartacus Guides or other old stuff. So if you,for now, can add only some info on the ones I'm looking for I would be grateful. When my total list comes you will be surprised as I was: 340 by now. :)) Thanks in advance
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The bar I was thinking of in Soi Day/Night was probably Boy's Studio.
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Halcyon
Can you be more specific, please :) I never knew about Sky Boys
“SKY BAR, Thanon Tapphraya, roof of Mr Mac’s”
Quote from “The Men of Thailand” 1993.
Later known as “New Sky Bar”.
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Boys' Studio - one of the greats!
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Originally Posted by
Chuai-Duai
A Friend Club: Now Panorama in Boyztown but it was a Go Go Bar.
Taboo: Day-Night Plaza. South Pattaya Road then Soi 3 and then a small Soi off that.
T & M: Pattaya Land Soi 1 about where the now closed Kawaii Boys was.
when was Panorama a go go bar?
I remember it called Cocobanana.
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Nova Boys was definitely on Pattayaland Soi 1 on the same side of road between Gentleman Club and New Moonlight. I think next door to Tai Boys. I visited there early 2000.
I assume with Sawasdee Bar gogo you already know of the original one on Pattayaland 1 next door to Gentleman Club. I'm sure Dragon Hut was one of the shop units where All of Me bar later set up. There was also Dragon Boys on Day/Night soi 1 either in the previous premises of, or next to Leks Gogo Bar.
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Wasn't dragon boys in the current Scandic massage shop premises?
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Studio Suites and Gogo Bar
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Just relying on old Spartacus will lead to many omissions and wrong data.
It goes without saying that publications originally Thai will be better, the best knwon is the old TMOT=The Men Of TH series, some had listings as separate booklet, some had it in the main book. Beside these there were also small and once off booklets (all of course in the times www was hardly know-80ies, 90ies of last century). I now realise I must still have some of those-@home then, 11 hrs flying away from here.
Besides that the then TH gay magazines-there were loads once upon a time-are best for this, esp. the advertising.
When www came up many started to make listings for gay places-like replacing the old Spartacus. Every now and then I find a few and mostly they are totally out of date-but then things here in TH change quite fast. So for the years from around 2005/2010 you could try googling a few and check what they list for Pty. But then many avid readers here will also have good memories for that period.
Finally: I suppose you know about the other well known TH gay fora, this is mostly known as the bitchy one. KHun Lung GB=Gaybutton also runs his own and that one mostly centers on Pty. You may get some more info by also posting there: gaybuttonthai.com
I will/can only check when back home-around march and see if I, if then still needed, can make some scans of the TMOT listings and send to you. (I suppose that is nowhere to be found online? unless some other savvy in that field knows. Or the exquisite computerskills of the Canuck matt?
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it took me a lot of time to go through the 2000 pages but found another 20 bars. So, thank you so much.
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Map of Boystown from “Thai Scene” 1994. I corresponded with the author Michael Notcutt but he sadly died before the next edition which came out in 1998. I met the author of that, subsequent, edition in London and gave him some information about various bars. He wrote under the name of “Damon Hammer” but that was not his real name.
The map shows the position of "A Friends Club" which was half the width of "Panorama" which is there now.
https://i.postimg.cc/1XtDDSkK/Thai-Scene-1994.jpg
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Sunne looked so clean and new in those pics. What a contrast to today.
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An amazing thread. Just looking at the photos,and the layout maps with "business" names takes me right back there. Can almost experience the feeling, entering the soi and the anticipation of what the evening will bring! Excitement,joy, arousal, being truly alive.
But it's all gone,and will never be repeated anywhere! The party is well and truly over.
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And it's interesting to note how brief Sunee's life was.
In 1996, there was one bar (Crazy boys?) It was almost empty when I investigated. Two years later, a flyer distributed at Jomtien's gay beach led me to return and there were a number of bars operating....one, I recall , was named "Nok."
The expansion continued but then the area was hit by allegations of underage mbs and other crimes. A few years later those particular problems were gone or at least being challenged....but by 2013 or so (my estimation) Sunee's popularity was declining even while Boyztown was just clinging on to its clientele.
The dye was cast and the closure of the shisha cafes in the area contributed mightily to the air of dereliction and darkness in the sois initially caused by the closure of Krazy Boys and Krazy Pub with their large neo signs.
That's not a long history.
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The gay scene in Pattaya has moved to Jomtien. But, Jomtien nor only has restrictions but is also right on the verge of pricing itself out of the market: rents wise.
My off last night told me how much more the rents are in the complex than even Boyztown, due ironically to its success. At some point the gay scene will be on the move again and Sunee is the likely place to go.
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arsenal
. At some point the gay scene will be on the move again and Sunee is the likely place to go.
“From your mouth to god’s ears”.
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Just a small aside comment. Why do so few members post photos with their comments when it is so easy to do? For me the addition of pics would increase my visits to and participation in the forum.
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CONTEST: Can you name the bar from the photos of the boys?
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Chuai-Duai
The quality of the photo does not matter only the memories. Thanks for your post. I loved the pic of the boy from Cafe Royal in his pink top and short shorts.
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Doug
The quality of the photo does not matter only the memories. Thanks for your post. I loved the pic of the boy from Cafe Royal in his pink top and short shorts.
I wonder where he is now.
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The Three amigos are, I think.... Batt,BG,Hat.
Im not to good with the bar names....but I never forget an ass!
The last photo.
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The pictures with 7 boys and with 1 boy is Eros.
I have pictures of Wonderland, Office Boys (after they closed, but signage still there), Samorn (beer bar), the gogo bar on a side Soi deep down on Bua Khao (forgot the name) and many other in the depths of my hard drive.
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Go quickly into the depths :))