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Former Le Café now reopened as Boyz Music
Looks like karaoke bar, tonight a small band of 3 guys playing Top40 type pop tunes. Could have been karaoke, the guy singing was butchering quite a good song, "Havana" by Camila Cabello.
Not very loud, surprisingly. The bar has glass doors that can be closed into a glass wall, all doors open tonight, and sound level very reasonable.
Boyztown very busy overall, Panorama seemed full.
What wasn't exactly full of customers is the newly opened Boyz Music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH9a...ature=youtu.be
Apologies for typo in the title, auto correct, maybe Moderator can fix it.
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What time was that video taken? It will need more customers than that.
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gerefan2
What time was that video taken? It will need more customers than that.
Around 11PM. Saturday night. Doesn't look like a strong start.
Walked through again at midnight, a bit busier. But opening night, it should be packed.
This is walk through Boyztown at midnight, Saturday night.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cwZ4Rmhix4&t=73s&app=desktop
I did keep phone camera away from people's faces, pointing down outside gogo bars.
Notice a barrier outside Boyz Boyz Boyz, it wasn't there just few nights ago, must be to keep noise away from Panorama. Chairs and tables of BBB are also pushed backed, last week tables were right in a middle of a Soi,, and no barrier.
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DoubleDutch
I did keep phone camera away from people's faces, .
Ha, maybe not. You got a close up of two of my Farang friends!!
Anyway why do BBB need blaring ear shattering music OUTSIDE their bar?
You don't see it at similar bars like Dreamboys BKK, Jupiter 2018, or any other place that I can think of.
TiT?
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Thanks for video tour DD - good to see the Soi from Cafe Royale round to Cupidol bright but once you moved out of it the rest of the area is just derelict and depressing.
In the bars that were open fronted, there seemed to be a lack of numbers. Could be packed out inside of course but what's visible is a mere shadow of past glories.
Very surprised Oscars appears still closed up - the rent can't be so high surely that no-one can see an opportunity?
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A report on another site said it was great fun. Looking forward to seeing it for myself.
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Boyz Music Show Bar is a late night place. Around midnight, Boyzboyzboyz closes and dozens and dozens of
boys descend on Boyz Music. The second show at boyzboyzboyz has been moved over to Boyz Music.
It’s not targeted for older gay men but rather where the money is, Asian customers.
Boyz Music really comes alive after midnight and rocks into the wee hours.
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Another reason NOT to stay at Ambience.
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So BBB is probably closing soon as the business moves to CR. Much as X-Boys did a few years ago. That's my guess. Any news on drink prices and off fees? Not that there's ever much I want to off from there.
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Manforallseasons
Another reason NOT to stay at Ambience.
True - but what about the LCR rooms directly above - are they defunct or is it still attempting to operate as a Hotel with the din from a Karaoke bar going on till "the wee hours"? Surely not
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Why can't they close the damn doors? what makes them think that we all want to hear their music?
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Do you think it might possibly have something to do with closed doors deterring passers-by from coming in ?
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Those of us who go to Pattaya and have fun can rejoice at the opening of a new venue. Those who don't can refrain from any unnecessarily argumentative posts borne out of jealousy.
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^^
No doubt more stalking & trolling.
One has to wonder why it continues to be tolerated - given that he's already been suspended.
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The fact that it is full of boys at 12:30 and goes on till the wee hours of the morning means they want the doors open and the music loud they are looking for young Asians etc. not old tosses.
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scottish-guy
True - but what about the LCR rooms directly above - are they defunct or is it still attempting to operate as a Hotel with the din from a Karaoke bar going on till "the wee hours"? Surely not
If Boyz Music is catering to the Chinese tourists, the guests staying in the hotel will probably all be downstairs creating the din.
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Easy to do a search and see if they're selling rooms.
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Manforallseasons
... they are looking for young Asians etc. not old tosses.
If they're not looking for old tossers I'd suggest they've picked the wrong location altogether.
But then again who knows - a friend of mine once told Basil Newby (over drinks in Thailand) that a ladyboy show in Blackpool would never work.
Pooh-Poohed it in fact.
Said ladyboy show "Funny Girls" went on to be queued round the block for decades and Basil made millions.
Friend died penniless, on benefits, house under threat of repossession and tens of thousands in debt (most of it spent on booze and boys in Thailand)
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"I spent most of my money on booze and birds. The rest I wasted."
George Best. (I think)
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catawampuscat
Boyz Music Show Bar is a late night place. Around midnight, Boyzboyzboyz closes and dozens and dozens of
boys descend on Boyz Music. The second show at boyzboyzboyz has been moved over to Boyz Music.
It’s not targeted for older gay men but rather where the money is, Asian customers.
Boyz Music really comes alive after midnight and rocks into the wee hours.
Good! I like Asians, and I'm going to descend on Boyz Music when BBB closes. Did you say around midnight? I walked through the Soi Saturday, last night, at midnight, Boyz Music seemed not very busy, maybe it was still too early, and later place becomes livelier. I'm particularly happy it open until wee hours, Boyztown always went dark around 1am, too early.
I am not targeted customer, and as a Westerner I do not have money, compared to young Asian customers, but I'm gonna give a try tonight. Hopefully they let me enter, at least!
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DoubleDutch
... Hopefully they let me enter, at least!
Are you referring to the bar or the young Asian customers.
:p
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DD. I can't imagine any well to do Desperado (such as myself) being denied entry to any high quality establishment. Haha.
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I don’t get the logic of closing BBB early just to move everyone across the street. Must cost lots more to operate like that.
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arsenal
So BBB is probably closing soon as the business moves to CR. Much as X-Boys did a few years ago. That's my guess. Any news on drink prices and off fees? Not that there's ever much I want to off from there.
That would be very interesting. The most successful gogo bar in Boyztown voluntarily closing, and moving to Boyz Music, not a gogo bar, it's a beer bar, with live entertainment. It makes perfect sense.
I would like to ask catawampuscat if BBB gogo boys are customers, or are they working at Boyz Music, after BBB closes at around 1am. Or he means Boyz Music is packed with Chinese? He said Asians, could be Thais having fun night out, Lao, but hopefully young Chinese guys. Until now younger Thai gay crowd did never party in Boyztown, maybe with Boyz Music this has now changed. Good!
If catawampuscat is right, and Boyz Music is packed with young Asians, I have found a new hobby, so far Chinese did not visit Boyztown, not Sunee, and not Jomtien Complex, the only way to meet Chinese used to be apps. Now with Boyz Music, everyone who likes Chinese has advantage, apps only have a photo, often fake, it is so much better to meet face to face, have few drinks in a bar, maybe sing a song, chat a bit, and then hopefully directly to a curtain motel! I'm excited, tonight is going to be fun!
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scottish-guy
Are you referring to the bar or the young Asian customers.
:p
As a polite person, I never enter first, I let other enter
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DD. With regards to the Chinese. They are wonderful to sleep with but not particularly good at the actual sex. I've never met one off the apps who didn't disappoint compared to the heavily airbrushed photo. If you're a size queen then you'll be sadly sad at the size of their members. They have the sexiest and pertest arses ever seen/felt.
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arsenal
DD. With regards to the Chinese. They are wonderful to sleep with but not particularly good at the actual sex. I've never met one off the apps who didn't disappoint compared to the heavily airbrushed photo. If you're a size queen then you'll be sadly sad at the size of their members. They have the sexiest and pertest arses ever seen/felt.
I love small dick, you get all the sensation, but not discomfort, Chinese are perfect. They usually don't speak word of English, so no need waste time to "where are you from". They are rude, for a top it's advantage, Thais are often too polite, nothing ruins a good submission session than "oh, did I hurt you", "so sorry!", Chinese never speak. Good!
Francois, you up to partying to wee hours, in company of wealthy Asians? Lets go! We could do karaoke duo of "Non, Je ne regrette rien", it will be wonderful!
I'm going to be outside Boyz Music at 12.30, that seems to be the preferred time to descend on the place. Look for The Killers T shirt outside the bar.
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I'm afraid the Chinese opium has taken effect on arsenal for his glowing assessment of their sexy arses.
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scottish-guy
Very surprised Oscars appears still closed up - the rent can't be so high surely that no-one can see an opportunity?
The rent rate was the precise final nail in the coffin for the last consortium of Oscar's owners. It went up by a ridiculous amount. The bar was mostly a business to give them a base, or reason to base themselves in Thailand. They already have business interests back in their home country. They enjoyed running the bar as well as it being a going concern, but there reached a point where the effort just wasn't worth it. After they had emptied the premises of their stock and the fixtures/ fittings they owned, the premises owners made a tentative approach which was taken as a move to 'negotiate' the rent. If they had done that instead of an overnight rent increase demand, Oscars might well still be operating as normal.
But it might still attract new renters if the Soi has an increase of customers attracted by the new Boyz Music bar if it 'takes off'. The fact it's only a one-shop wide frontage is a slight disadvantage, but the previous owners of Oscars said they had a decent amount of footfall over the whole evening's opening hours when they ran it.
As for the new Boyz Music bar in the soi, it's got to be a very welcome addition no matter what 'noise' it creates, still a lot better than a dark, empty premises large enough to put a complete damper on the whole soi. It will attract more customers to the soi who will no doubt also visit other bars. The type of open front Music Bar is one Asians, especially Thais do like. That is why Walking Street clubs have become so popular with the gay Thai lads and compete directly with NAB, Hollywood etc for a night out. There are 3/4 large open fronted Music Bars on Walking St which are very popular, Music Café attached to Lucifer and CandyShop are a couple of popular examples. Many Asians come to Pattaya specifically to party as well as looking to hook up, so it will be interesting to see how the location in Boyztown Soi 3 works out for a Music Bar.
Also, as its a professional live band as opposed to amateur Karaoke participants the music should give the soi lots more 'atmosphere'. I know a few of the BBB management and one of the part time DJs sent me a video of rehearsals last week, the female singer seemed way off-key but it was only rehearsals, so I hope she ups the game for the real thing.
Not sure why certain individuals here are fixated on ages of westerners versus 'young' Asians visiting Boyztown, there are plenty of older/mature Asians who visit for the same reasons, also no matter your age, if you enjoy the music or the atmosphere then there's every reason to visit BT and be part of it in the same way as previous years. Certainly visitors who have come to enjoy a holiday. If you live in Pattaya permanently I'm sure most things become jaded eventually when you've seen them a ton of times.
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scottish-guy
Very surprised Oscars appears still closed up - the rent can't be so high surely that no-one can see an opportunity?
Rent at Boyztown is brutal.
Just 1 year ago, before shutting down, Le Café owner was laying out around 500.000 THB every months, 300k rent, rest payroll and bills, and that is just the bar side, hotel was separate business then.
Night after night, Le Café was dead, at peak hours, 11pm until closing, only staff present. Of course no one would subsidize a bar this long, this is real money for a Thai or foreigner. For the owner to lay
out this amount, he could have bought a studio apartments in View Talai 1 and 2 for just 3 months running expenses. I'm sure owner was hoping for things to turn around, and he was hoping the place to become major popular spot, it never did.
Unless Chinese gay tourists will be arriving in Pattaya in larger numbers, AND going out to spending money, the new place will have outcome of Le Café. Owners are Chinese, and they are betting on Chinese coming to Boyztown to spend their money. We'll see.
Why is Panorama for sale? Openly, with sign outside? Places like Panorama were never bought and sold with For Sale sign. I'm sure current owner isn't selling Panorama because he has difficulty counting all the cash. And For Sale sign is a sign that he wasn't able to sell by word of mouth, they way bars are usually sold here.
It needs to be reminded, right now there are hardly any Chinese visiting Boyztown, sitting down, and ordering bottle of beer. It's Westerners, and at the very peak season, around New Year, Russians.
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This is only my own personal experience and opinion, but what I liked about LCR was that after we had done the rounds of the bars and picked up the boys we wanted for the night, we could take the lot of us to LCR at 11pm/Midnight/ maybe even 1am and all have a meal while the entertainment was going on whether it was El Duo or Toi or they had a girl singing as well. We'd spend several thousand Baht (not difficult) whenever we did that and it was good business for them, as did many of the patrons and it was always busy.
Then they revamped the place and restricted the restaurant part to one side (closed off) - so our reason for going there was now defunct as we could either eat at the side with no entertainment or have entertainment with no food. El Duo left for pastures new and they got rid of Toi (who was maybe not the best singer in the world but a really nice guy and a familiar face). That left the girl and without being misogynistic, nobody was interested.
They killed it stone dead, it didn't just happen to them.
I hope the new format succeeds but if it's just a music/karaoke bar it would have limited appeal. Is there food?
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scottish-guy
we could take the lot of us to LCR at 11pm/Midnight/ maybe even 1am and all have a meal while the entertainment was going on whether it was El Duo or Toi or they had a girl singing as well. We'd spend several thousand Baht (not difficult) whenever we did that and it was good business for them, as did many of the patrons and it was always busy.
I too spent many (if not most!) nights in LCR from when BBB closed at 01.45 until 03.30... or later... I recall many times still being in the bar when Ian Mc Knight arrived at 6am to relieve the night shift!
The opening of late night gay clubs (Maya, X-ray, Dude, Dave (all now sadly gone) and NAB) killed off their late night trade... LCR was no longer the only show in town for after hours entertainment and pickups
I can see Boys café possibly attracting some of the big spending Chinese that take a gaggle of boys to Hollywood every night...
From what I have heard there are no hotel rooms upstairs any more, it has been kitted out with Short Time rooms and VIP karaoke rooms
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DoubleDutch
Francois, you up to partying to wee hours, in company of wealthy Asians? Lets go! We could do karaoke duo of "Non, Je ne regrette rien", it will be wonderful!
DD, my partying is with poor Thai guys and in the afternoon and now I am asleep by 1:00 am. Not like in the bad, old days, "mais je ne regrette rien".
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1am and all have a meal while the entertainment was going on whether it was El Duo or Toi or they had a girl singing as well.
El Duo left for pastures new and they got rid of Toi (who was maybe not the best singer in the world but a really nice guy and a familiar face). That left the girl and without being misogynistic, nobody was interested.
I used to go and enjoyed Toi but really went for 'the girl' and her diva songs. Got to know her well and one day she brought her new baby boy in. I bought him a teddy bear.
Years later I went to a market and she had a stall. She said "one moment -- see my son again". Out came a fine looking teenage lad who thanked me for the teddy bear years ago (probably prompted).
Toi, I think, moved to Bangkok and opened a music school. He did a one night performance at Balcony Pub. I think a video of his performance still exists on Balcony's website.
I know that El Duo split up but have heard nothing of them for years.
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All I can add about El Duo is that after the split one of them won Asian Entertainer of the Year - there was a YouTube clip of him being presented with the award on live TV.
I’m serious - not a joke
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Boyz Music gets busy after midnight, walked by few times, here are 5 short walks, starting at 00:30 Sun morning, and last one at about 3:30 am.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEmbrlcKjw8
The first walk is around other Pattayaland soi as well, Boyz Music at around 3:20 min mark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AZKizwQUek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL_LGFnPwCY
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Great videos, DD. And narrated in a very sexy voice!
Thanks for taking the time to report.
It appears that Boyz Music has brought life back into the soi. I haven't seen it that crowded in years.
And beautiful Speedmaster, too!
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And beautiful Speedmaster, too!
Thank you! My favourite watch :)
Hard to believe this Speedy reference goes back to 1966.
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On the one hand it seems dead about half past midnight with, BBB, Oscars, Prisma all closed and Panorama almost shut.
On the other hand Boyz Music open a lot later than that adds to the late night entertainment...provided you like it.
There’s always my fav Doubleshot!
Anyway will try it out later this week...lookout DD!