Not that smoking, the cigarette one. If this doesn't get described as 'another nail in the coffin' then I shall want to know the reason why.
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Not that smoking, the cigarette one. If this doesn't get described as 'another nail in the coffin' then I shall want to know the reason why.
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/deta...gnews/30328928
I'm a smoker, in both senses of the word, and while I rarely sit on the beach I have wondered why they don't provide ashtrays if you're having a beer or some food.
smokers are disgusting. Worse than pigs. Fucking ash and butts all over the place. A pox on them.
Have to admit it is gross ( and very common) to be sitting on the beach in pattaya and step off your bed only to tramp on one or more cigarette butts as most smokers seem to believe that if they bury their finished butts under a 1mm layer of sand that that it's gone and done with - unfortunately that's rarely the case of course.
So, if smokers would perhaps take more care then perhaps non smokers wouldn't get so pissed with them. ( Apologies in advance to all those considerate smokers who DO try not to inflict their choices on others, but alas they appear to be in the minority these days)
Mind you typical Thailand - whilst I dont disagree with some form of penalty ( small 1000 baht on the spot fine perhaps?) but to suggest that throwing a cigarette butt on the beach could incur up to a year in jail is of course just ludicrous and actually rather than enforcing the point on the new law i.e it's to encourage people to be thoughtful about others and the environment etc it actually just takes away from the whole thing and makes it sound just a little bit ridiculous as of COURSE no one is going to jail for a year for that - are they !??
Mind you being Thailand that is likely designed just more to give the Police a bigger bargaining position on site for when THEY are trying to extract their unofficial on the spot fines from the smoker as they threaten them with their one year jail sentence - how very considerate of the Government !
So if I'm sitting on the beach with a beer, what do you suggest I do with my cigarette butt, if there's no ashtray provided?
Next suggestion for the hit list: the inconsiderate oafs who take a boom box to the beach and inflict their taste in music very loudly on everyone else.
When three Russians did that in January, another farang eventually remonstrated vigorously with them - to a big round of applause from the rest of us. That kept the offenders quiet until five minutes before they left when they ostentatiously turned the volume up to maximum just to make a final point. They didn't, however, return the next day.
Only marginally less annoying than breeders who inflict their screaming brats on all and sundry whether on planes or beaches or in restaurants or even bars in the UK
Smokers should learn to carry their butts in an appropriate receptacle to be disposed off properly. The Japanese in general bring their litter home when a litter bin is not at their disposal.
Diagram wrote.
"Smokers should learn to carry their butts in an appropriate receptacle to be disposed off properly."
Do you mean like the fat German oap who carries his butt in a thong?
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Ah feck it, I just won't bother going on the beach. No big deal. The Beer Garden gives me enough sea views.
As already mentioned I'm sure many non smokers could give you a few suggestions re that - but seriously though that's a MAD question Joe, I mean would you ask the same about litter - i.e if there's no bin handy what would you suggest I do with my litter - why you'd KEEP it of course until you found a bin, same as YOUR butt, you wouldn't should take care of THAT too as it is YOUR rubbish, why would you even think that it would be someone else's problem to suggest to you what you should do with your butts !?
You are right of course that if the vendor is aware people wish to smoke then it miight be a good idea of him to provide ashtrays, but if not then the LEAST you could do would be to throw your butt in a bin or something and not just throw it away or try to secretly bury it in the sand for the next ussuspecting soul to walk over in their bare feet - and all because you decided you wanted a smoke and to hell with everyone else.
Tell me do you still eat chewing gum ? And if so when finished and if you can't see a bin to wrap it and chuck it into do you just stick that underneath your seat / table too as hey it's not YOUR fault that there's no bins there ?
You SEE, it's questions like "so what would you have me do with MY butt" that starts to make me think that maybe the Goverments one year jail time suggestion maybe wasn't such a crazy idea after all !! :-)
I thought that they were going to set up smoking areas just away from the beach.
Ok, I give in. I won't go to the beach again. Just sit in the Beer Garden. They provide ashtrays.
I can be a bit dense sometimes, gerefan, but is that actually true? What's the fucking point of going to the beach if you can't have a beer, and now you can't have a cigarette? Or was it just a joke?
As some of u may have noticed Im no shrinking violet...anyone irrespective of size or ethnicity daring to smoke in such a manner that affects me...pet hate is when the breeze blows a steady stream of smoke over me .... gets an earful...and Im not polite about it either. To date 100% success rate.
No joke Joe. New rules being introduced for vendors, together with newly allocated areas coming in soon. Was mentioned in a thread on here or one of the other boards recently. Think you can take your own.
Did you know beach closed one day per week for cleaning?? It's either Weds or Thurs, forget which.
Little wonder that with all the petty bureaucracy and restrictions, the scams and rising prices - the visitor numbers which used to be seen at low season 15 yrs ago (in the Gay areas at least) now make up high season
That'll be after all those bloody smokers dropping their cigarette butts everywhere ! You see Joe, this is all YOUR fault !! You inconsiderate sod - hell slap it up you you can't get a beer there anymore, proper karma if you ask me for all those minging butts I've walked on over the years ! :-)
PS I read over on Gay thailand that the fine for being caught being disgusting a dropping your Butts on the beach is up to 100,000 baht so take care not to be the first prosecuted as I'm guessing that might put a bit of a dent in the old beer budget !
Assuming I was sitting there first your 'earful' wouldn't work with me. Perhaps you pick on a certain type.
Or how about just dont put your dirty butts in the bloody sand at ALL !! I'm assuming you brought a box of cigarettes with you, and you took a cigarette OUT of that box to smoke it, well that then means there's room to place said butt back IN to that same box again until such times as you're near a bin surely - oh what, maybe you dont want that dirty old butt in touching your precious cigarettes, but fuck its ok to stub it out on the beach and leave it there until later i guess eh .......
I now feel suitably humbled and chastened. In the unlikely event that I visit the beach, I will pick up all my cigarette ends and take them to a reputable garbage disposal facility.
The non-smoking fascists may have won this battle, but they'll never win the war!
u have already lost the war..simply by being too weak to resist smoking...weak weak weak.
WTF?!?!? You're a moderator now? How the fuck did that happen?
And if you're a moderator, why haven't you banned me yet? You hate me.
Jeez, you non-smokers need to take a time out, and relax. It's no big deal for me not to go to the beach at Pattaya or Jomtien. The Beer Garden is close enough.
Matt, if you were banned, where else could we go for our daily fix of soap opera?
The stated reason for the beach cigarette ban is not to deprive you of your right to smoke as there will be receptacles before you enter the controlled areas, just like entering a mall. I personally(as an ex-smoker) have no issues with your right to smoke but your right ends at the tip of my nose. Two days ago, I had to leave the beach early when two Russians sat in front of me and lit up. That they were using ashtrays was of no consequence.
Smokers can relax, as a long time resident of Pattaya I can say with confidence that this smoking ban will not be enforced in the long-term.
The anti smoking fascists are always good for a poke rising up like steam from a kettle with righteous indignation.
Beaches are part of the great outdoors.
They withstand storms and sunamis so I'm sure cigarettes would be a minor issue.
I don't smoke cigarettes but I have no problem with people blowing smoke into the offing.
I remember there used to be a sign "Cigarette butts kill babies and dolphins" on Dongtan beach.
And they get in the butts of mermaids too...
Seems to me there are too many babies in the world as it is, but I care about dolphins.