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HappyPlacebar some reflections.
A PM from a visitor to Happy Place gave a tongue in cheek report rather long but interesting.
First he notes this originally was a girlie bar, I know that as I attended the opening of Crystals, which was to be a hunks bar like Tawan but never took off. I personally posted to this forum the number of a magnificent guy new to pay for play, who was swamped by members asking for him by number. I wont do that again.
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Some of his comments [ which I have had to edit]
Upon entering the bar which has been newly renovated, you can see that the lighting, sound system etc has been renovated to the tune of several million baht.
Drinks were top quality and not half shots or watered down. I had Tanqueray which was the real thing. My friend Absolute. Drink served with scented cold wet towel, free snacks like bananna chips & cashews, macadamia nuts, trail mix and sunflower seeds. Fabulous.
You mentioned discounts for regulars in bars, here buy 4 and get one free. We were offered an expat discount card giving 10% of all drinks,FREE!!!!!! unheard of in Pattaya.
As a size queen you will be pleased to know they describe their boys as """They are tall, short ,chubby, thin, big dick, small dick, anything you want you can find there.""""
There was talk of a party every month on the 30th which is thursday, and every friday and saturday free off draws.
On the down side place is narrow and if there is a crowd it can quickly full. I am sure there are shows fri/sat at 10.30 but I will have to go back[hehehe] to check that out.
This looks like one new bar that seems to have got their act together. Dont ask me if I took a boy off.
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I wont be able to make it this weekend . Please post if you attend the thursday 30 or friday and saturday show night. I am fascinated to see if this might be a winner.
They seem to have a business plan something other bars seem to lack.
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Coincidentally, there's a short note about Happyplace bar on Cruising For Sex, by Biggles69, dated 29 Sep 2010. Permalink. He wrote:
In Boystown last night I was thinking of making a first visit to the re-birthed (for about the 3rd time) "Happy" bar that used to be Crystal. A sign outside proclaimed "Ladies Welcome." - that was enough of a put down for me and I headed elsewhere.
You've been warned :) about this "happy place".
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Happy Place is a fun filled gay bar that allows women to come have a fun time also. All the bars in BoysTown ALSO allow women. It is unfortunate but customers are scarce in off season and we need to make money to pay the bills, That my dear is a true reality, The very few women that do venture in have a good time and off the boys and party same as the gay clientele. Every bar I have seen allows women, Its just reality and it is still very fun and a well run bar
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Originally Posted by macaroni21
Coincidentally, there's a short note about Happyplace bar on Cruising For Sex, by Biggles69, dated 29 Sep 2010.
Permalink. He wrote:
In Boystown last night I was thinking of making a first visit to the re-birthed (for about the 3rd time) "Happy" bar that used to be Crystal. A sign outside proclaimed "Ladies Welcome." - that was enough of a put down for me and I headed elsewhere.
You've been warned :) about this "happy place".
Id have to say that Happy Place is not the type of bar that would appeal to Cruising for sex members. It is not one big urinal and seems to be busier than other bars in Pattaya land. I did chat to one of the boys outside and he said that last week
many many chinese lady come and party with the boys Spend much money
If that is what keeps doors open then good luck to the new owners. Copa, Wildwestboys and Xboys all had asian women in the audience. As for me I would rather have sex with a boy that is straight, but is flexible, than a mincing ladyboy.
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I think there is a difference between allowing ladies in and having a big neon sign saying "Ladies Welcome"
I was put off by the sign and went elsewhere.
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I think there is a difference between allowing ladies in and having a big neon sign saying "Ladies Welcome"
I was put off by the sign and went elsewhere.
I agree. Any gay bar that promotes itself that way will not get my business.
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I used to dislike seeing women in gay bars and discos/clubs but I don't have an issue now. I don't mind having them around at all.
For some reason some ladies feel really comfortable in gay discos, especially on the dance floor. I mean, sometimes you have 2-3 guys rubbing up against them pretty intimately and they're quite happy to go along with it! Just hope straight guys don't get in on this.
Having said that... I looked at Happy Boy's website and it's hard to imagine any woman being attracted to the boys there. I find it hard enough to imagine gay guys being attracted to them! I don't know why Sunee seems to exude this 'bottom of the barrel' feel...
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You are confusing Happy Boys with Happy Place . Please get your facts right although it did allow you to have one of your little digs at Sunnee. Perhaps you were being distracted by one of your "client meetings"
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Originally Posted by pennyboy
You are confusing Happy Boys with Happy Place . Please get your facts right although it did allow you to have one of your little digs at Sunnee. Perhaps you were being distracted by one of your "client meetings"
Client Meetings? I didn't know Beachy was a prostitute.
All my illusions have been shattered!!
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Originally Posted by pennyboy
You are confusing Happy Boys with Happy Place . Please get your facts right although it did allow you to have one of your little digs at Sunnee. Perhaps you were being distracted by one of your "client meetings"
Ah, fair enough. I didn't know there were two happy named venues.
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Client Meetings? I didn't know Beachy was a prostitute.
There's a little bit of the whore in all of us. :tongue3:
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Originally Posted by pennyboy
You are confusing Happy Boys with Happy Place . Please get your facts right although it did allow you to have one of your little digs at Sunnee. Perhaps you were being distracted by one of your "client meetings"
Ah, fair enough. I didn't know there were two happy named venues.
That is why the subject line included the address, for anyone that knew the slightest about Pattaya.
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Why would it matter if women are allowed in the bar or not?
This is one of those things that makes me scratch my head. You have the gay people carrying on about acceptance, equal rights, tolerance, and all that. Then turn around and say, "What?!? You let women in this bar? Well fuck that then, I'm not going in!".
Really, it just makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. I could care less if women are in a gay bar. I hope they enjoy their night.
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Originally Posted by lonelywombat
That is why the subject line included the address, for anyone that knew the slightest about Pattaya.
I know a bit about Pattaya, but obviously don't know every inch of the place. No idea what/where Pattayaland is.
Despite what you and some others say, I have actually been there before. I might even go again. It's an easier beachside to get to than one of the islands. Services/ammenities (accommodation, eateries, massage, shops) aren't so bad there and some of the late night discos sound like they're worth checking out.
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Why would it matter if women are allowed in the bar or not?
This is one of those things that makes me scratch my head. You have the gay people carrying on about acceptance, equal rights, tolerance, and all that. Then turn around and say, "What?!? You let women in this bar? Well fuck that then, I'm not going in!".
Really, it just makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. I could care less if women are in a gay bar. I hope they enjoy their night.
Totally agree. I'm fine with women in gay venues. It does put me off if a gay club becomes overly populated with straights (both guys and girls) though.
I can understand why some might be put off as I used to be self conscious about seeing girls in gay bars/clubs, but I'm more or less comfortable with that now. Don't know if this is the same feeling people here get, or why, since most members here have probably been out/gay for a long time and should be mostly comfortable with it. Maybe there's other reasons... not liking the competition? Not comfortable around women? I don't know...
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I did not know until I got my bin that the maximum charge for all drinks was 100 baht.Not watered down but full strength.
La Cage is the only other bar in Pattaya that does that. I maybe wrong as my friend said he paid more for Corona.
My drinks all 100b.
cute little monkeys and a few gorillas too
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...cute little monkeys and a few gorillas too
Are you sure you didn't stagger into Khao Kheow Zoo by mistake?
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...cute little monkeys and a few gorillas too
Are you sure you didn't stagger into Khao Kheow Zoo by mistake?
No that would be wrong he knew you had returned to Scotland already,
Check out the cute little monkeys and others on the new website
http://www.happyplacebar.com/
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I cannot see the sign a couple of posters were complaining about. Bright certainly .
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It used to be on the right hand window as you walked in, maybe he's removed it?
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It used to be on the right hand window as you walked in, maybe he's removed it?
I received a PM to say it is still there but no problem, he also said that the bar was doing better than any other bar in BT.
I had an email from the owner of happyplace who is /has been in hospital. Bad time when starting off a new enterprise. He mentioned that after I posted his website he received emails complaining about the fem boys pics. Sounds like someone cant let go.
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just FYI whilst driving home last night I'm sure I heard an ad for Happy Place on Pattaya People radio, and similar to the ad for BBB it doesn't give a hint of being a gay venue ... assuming that is what they are promoting it as?
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My friend and drinking partner here at home emailed to say that Happyplace was packed at 10.30 friday night and as he is short did not stay for the show. Plans to get there early tonight when there is another show.
Seems to be the success story of 2010 and a week to go before boybingo.
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Packed? the place is tiny, put a dozen people in there, and sure it's packed, and at 100 baht a drink, they will never make a profit, particularly with the rents in that area, another rich Farang subsidising their "hobby"
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Another reply from someone who has never run a bar and has no idea how to run one.
Happy Place holds considerably more then 12 people and at a 100 baht there is plenty of money to be made. Most people order, juice, water, soda where the profit is more then 90 baht on every sale. Also it is much more likely that the customer will buy the boys a drink at these prices so double the profit.
The key to a successful bar is volume , which translates into excitement and offs and happy employees etc. Amazing how none of the Lady Bars in that area have trouble making money at those prices in this supposedly High Rent District(ridiculous)
Someone who is not interested in ripping off the Gay Customer should be applauded and supported.
Walk into many Bars in Pattayaland Soi 1-3 at 10 pm and there are no customers or maybe 2 or 3. If Happy Place has 12 customers or a packed house at the same time, it doesn't take a genius to figure out who is making money.
Finally some Gay Bars in Pattaya that don't think the Gay customer is someone to be ripped off. Corner Bar in Sunee is the first Gay Bar I know of selling Heiniken Draught beer for 50 baht.. The lady bars have been doing it for 40 years.
I would hope we can have more owners who treat the Gay Customer with respect instead of someone to rip off!!!
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Obviously you have never run a bar before either, a Heineken costs 45 baht to buy, and, no, most people do not buy soda's or coke's, quite how you worked that one out, oh, and try buying a Bacardi Breezer for less than 70 baht? dimwit! as for lady bars in walking st, sure the drinks are cheaper, but an off will cost minimum 800 baht, so who is ripping who off?
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Originally Posted by i dont believe it
Packed? the place is tiny, put a dozen people in there, and sure it's packed, and at 100 baht a drink, they will never make a profit, particularly with the rents in that area, another rich Farang subsidising their "hobby"
What's the matter, LMTU*? Did they reject your offer for dodgy PR services?
Looks like your brain is bloating up. You ought to get it checked out.
*AKA "i don't believe it"
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Interesting to get email from friend who has been in Pattaya for 3 weeks and says he has visited every bar.
"Happyplacebar is working on high turnover low markup ATM. Prices of drinks go up on 1 Nov from 100 b to 120 baht. My own rule of thumb as to how well a bar is doing, is to watch the number of drinks served in peak periods. On friday night between 10.30 and midnight they were serving about 60 drinks an hour and that in a tiny bar. I was most impressed and although I stopped counting it would not surprise to hear they had done close to 100 drinks in that 90 minutes.My conservative estimate is even at 100 b per drink for the night excluding offs, takings would have been around 15,000 b.There are many bigger bars that are not getting half that."
Later in the email he stated he watched as he had dinner at the restaurant opposite earlier in the week, and called in for only a short time. He estimated that the earlier night had about one third the bar trade.
He concluded that
"if saturday was as good as friday the the weekly drinks served would exceed 500. So much for low season. But the expats trying out a new bar is the factor that cannot be measured. How many will return, how many were tourists."
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Call me old fashioned but I usually go to a bar to enjoy myself rather than to sit surruptitiously scrutinising the productivity of the bar staff armed with a stopwatch and calculator. Then, not being content with that, to go home and send emails of the results.
Your "friend" must be a laugh riot.
What does he do for kicks? Count the bricks in the walls?
Fucksake.
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"Obviously you have never run a bar before either, a Heineken costs 45 baht to buy, and, no, most people do not buy soda's or coke's, quite how you worked that one out, oh, and try buying a Bacardi Breezer for less than 70 baht? dimwit! as for lady bars in walking st, sure the drinks are cheaper, but an off will cost minimum 800 baht, so who is ripping who off?"
Unlike you Moron I owned and ran a bar that did $3,000,000 a year in business. You show what a dope you are by quoting me a price of Heiniken as 45 baht.
Try reading the posts . I was referring to Draught Beer. Do you know what that is or are you just stupid.. That beer costs at most 15 baht to pour.
As you can see from many posts since this bar is doing the right things and will continue to make money. Next time you go into Happy Place which I am sure you have never been in under this ownership then we might be interested in hearing your opinions.
By the way the last time I was in there there were 18 customers , 12 of which had soda, water or juice . Unlike you I know what I am talking about!!!
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Call me old fashioned but I usually go to a bar to enjoy myself rather than to sit surruptitiously scrutinising the productivity of the bar staff armed with a stopwatch and calculator. Then, not being content with that, to go home and send emails of the results.
Your "friend" must be a laugh riot.
What does he do for kicks? Count the bricks in the walls?
Fucksake.
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He works as an auditor for a large hotel group, looking out for fraudelent bar staff in the main.
He can keep a conversation going and have a good time and not miss a trick. Usually he sent in where there is a drop in takings or in percentages.
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Hired a guy like that once . Just amazing what they can tell you after a few visits!!!!
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This is exactly what I have been on about since the currency problems that have affected Western tourists, apart from Australians of course (who seem to be having a field day with regard to holiday currency), its a brilliant business model and it would encourage business undoubtedly. They have also added "added value" to this business model also. It's probably worth a visit. I wonder who owns it, falang or local.
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He is a yank but I got the impression he has been in Pattaya awhile.
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Obviously you have never run a bar before either, a Heineken costs 45 baht to buy
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Unlike you Moron I owned and ran a bar that did $3,000,000 a year in business. You show what a dope you are by quoting me a price of Heiniken as 45 baht.
Try reading the posts . I was referring to Draught Beer. Do you know what that is or are you just stupid.. That beer costs at most 15 baht to pour.
What's the matter LMTU (i don't believe it)? Caught talking bullsh*t again?
What about the time you insisted a certain hotel is ONE block from the beach and then posted a map clearly showing the hotel OVER TWO blocks from the beach, contradicting yourself LOL. Moron.
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This is exactly what I have been on about since the currency problems that have affected Western tourists, apart from Australians of course (who seem to be having a field day with regard to holiday currency)
Hate to break it to you, but as time goes by, American/European tourists will probably matter less and less to Thailand in terms of revenue. You guys may be one of the last generations of Europeans who are able to retire or holiday in Thailand cheaply (relative to costs in your own country). But yes, Australia is doing nicely right now. We just reached one to one parity with the USD for the first time in almost 30 years!
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Went to Happy Place one night last week with three friends. Ordered one drink each, one soft drink and three Kahlua with milk and ice after checking if these drinks qualified for 100 baht price. Answer was Yes. After our drinks were delivered the waiter said sorry your Kahlua drinks are 180 baht but because you all have 50% discount cards from a local restaurant you will pay 90 baht each drink. We were impressed till the check bin came and we were charged 90 baht for one Kahlua and 180 baht for the other two drinks. So much for the 100 baht or discount drinks. No we didn't argue the point but they could have told us up front the drinks would not be 100 baht.
I think you should have kept them accountable for what they said. If they said the drinks were 100 baht that's what you should have stood on at the end.
It's not that they didn't voluntarily disclose it. It's the fact that you explicitly asked them and they explicitly said, yes, they will be 100 baht.
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Happyplace? More like CRAPPY PLACE.
I visited Happyplacebar last night(18th October) around 10pm. If there are any positives about this bar it is that the seating is comfortable, drinks all seem to be 100 baht each, decent air conditioning and a good sound system.
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For those who go to bars to see and/or off the boys this is most definitely not the 'place' to go. Been a long time that I have seen such a collection of unattractive and dare I saw ugly boys. Many were grossly overweight. They take it in turns to dance on the small stage in groups of about 5, whilst the remaining ones hang about in the side or corner of the bar. Maybe one or two that might be worthy of considering to be "offed" but a customer would have to be seriously desperate.
Two of the most unattractive were numbered 15 and 17. The latter looked like the fat one from Laurel and Hardy without the moustache.He had a fake if not demented smile on his face, looked like smoke was coming out of his ears, and he spent his time on the stage eye balling some female customer, as surely no gay in his right mind would want him.
I was with a Thai friend when I went to the bar, and he agreed with my assessment and his opinion was "Old Boys". That is an understatement as most were years past their sell by date.
The bars website suggests and shows pictures of some attractive boys but the reality from what I saw last night is totally the opposite and the web site is in my view grossly misleading.
Amazing that owners can spend millions on furnishings, sound systems, docor etc but neglect the most importance thing: getting a decent supply of nice looking boys worthy of getting to know or taking "off".
Happyplace bar?
More like:
CRAPPY PLACE.
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I don't doubt your assessment on a Monday night but other nights there was a decent mix of boys. One thing I know for sure is that can happen at any Bar. Last trip I went to my favorite bar Funny Boys around 1030 on a Tuesday. There were about 16 boys and none of them could have got a job in a bar I would have owned. I even asked Rose what happened and she didn't know what to say.
There are many nights I have been to Funnyboys when I would have taken any one of 20 boys. So one visit does not always tell the true story. Visit on a weekend and if you see the same boys then maybe something is wrong!!!!
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I don't doubt your assessment on a Monday night but other nights there was a decent mix of boys. One thing I know for sure is that can happen at any Bar. Last trip I went to my favorite bar Funny Boys around 1030 on a Tuesday. There were about 16 boys and none of them could have got a job in a bar I would have owned. I even asked Rose what happened and she didn't know what to say.
There are many nights I have been to Funnyboys when I would have taken any one of 20 boys. So one visit does not always tell the true story. Visit on a weekend and if you see the same boys then maybe something is wrong!!!!
I find that if you drink sufficient quantities of Black Label before visiting ANY go-go bar, not only does there appear to be TWICE the number of boys but they are ALL extremely attractive.
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Heh... Drink enough and hell, even the mamasan might start to look HOT.
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Happy Place is a nice enough bar. When I went they didn't have any guys that fit my taste but that could be that they were all offed before I arrived and I only been there once. I may go back before I leave.
I went to Sawatdee last night. There were only 10 gogo guys in the bar, I was the only customer.
X Boys puts on a good (Manly) show, No drag on the night I was there. The show reminded me of the old wild west boys show.
Crazy Dragon has a few customers but closed around Midnight just as I was returning to go back in from boyztown. Of the few customers that were there, I was one gogo guy that seem to have it all, but he only made it to about 2 or 3 tables before he was sitting next to a customer and never made it over to my table. The one guy I did off once seem to hover near me and wanted me to off him again, but he refused to shoot his wad (I say bluntly), so I won't waste my time or money on that cute guy.
I went into one bar in Sunee and they guys all looked so young. One guy next to me looked so young that I am sure his butt smelled of powder and a fresh changed diaper. The lady hostess told me he was from Issan (I think the boy said burma) and that he was 17 (so he could have been younger). I finished my drink and beat feet out of there.
I offed one guy from Wild West Boys.... What a waste of my life's moments. One sad story after another. And being from Issan he had the pebbles under the skin of his cock. (roll eyes). But I must say he has great looks and great body. I wondered why no one was offing him, now I know why.
As it stands, the Copa has been my best bar experience with the guys.
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... being from Issan he had the pebbles under the skin of his cock...
You've completely lost me there
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