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Some statistics gathered during my current trip
I asked two Thai boys what percentage of boys in Thailand are gay. Both estimated it to be 50%. That is of course a highly unbelievable number. Can a society/culture survive if 50% of the male population doesn’t reproduce. I guess their presence in Pattaya made them over estimate the number. But when asking further they kept by their view. They have no explanation for this high number. But if true it must be in the dna makeup of the Thai population. They also have no idea why Thailand has so many more lady boys than other countries. Even countries that are equally free when it comes to expressing your sexuality.
Yesterday I asked a very sexy Vietnamese twink whom I offed in Screw boys (I have left Pattaya) how many customers he has in a month. While sometimes boys refuse to answer this he had no problem. He said (better “he wrote”, because almost all communication was via a translate app) that he had about 18 customers a month. That is pretty good if you ask me. His own estimation is that for other boys in that bar the number is about the same. Also bit unbelievable for me.
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Hopefully things continue to remain positive for the boys as much for the punters. The foreign boys certainly know how to sustain themselves to consistently return to Thailand for the work opportunities in a niche industry.
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Maybe those two Thai boys believe there is strength in numbers.
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18 a month is quite believable...not even one a day..he's a slacker
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The following is not a statistic, but information like this interests me. I would love that other forum members also posts info like the below. Sadly I read it too rarely.
I offed a Cambodia boy from Hot Male bar in Soi Twilight. He told me his family thinks he works in a restaurant. Almost all his income goes to his family. Who have thus no idea about the source of the money. His parents have no job he told me. So he supports them. I think his parents abuse him. They let their son work for them. I can't believe they can't find a job thenelves in Cambodia. I feel sorry for that boy. Imagine the daily pressure on him to get an off. That pressure must be higher for him, than it is for boys who only need to support themselves.
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I don't doubt your story AsDaRa. However my favourite Pattaya masseur, a Cambodian, initially told me he has 5 brothers and sisters and that he supports them. Yet during my last (absolutely wonderful) massage with him he told me his mother has a good job and had bought hm a motorbike so.....
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True. You must be careful with moneyboys and their stories. Lieng is second nature because it almost comes as a requirement to be succrsfull in that job
But I think I am now mature enough to read into the body language and into the way how it is said if it is true or not. And I really feel this was honest.
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'Can a society/culture survive if 50% of the male population doesn’t reproduce?.'
- A lot of 'gay' men end up fathering children!
Men who venture into the gay spectrum tend to be more sexually active and less sexually repressed.
Whilst there are some men who have never felt any desire to have sexual contact with women, my own take is that some degree of bisexuality is very common - possibly even exceeding 50% - whereas on the other hand, men who exhibit total disinterest in heterosexual activity is low - maybe 3 or 4%
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AsDaRa
True. Y
But I think I am now mature enough to read into the body language and into the way how it is said if it is true or not. And I really feel this was honest.
OK, but be careful. I'm 70 and have been traveling for more than 4 decades and Thai stories are little different from Dominicaan, Mexican, Costa Rican, etc. There is a remarkable similarity world wide. Basciaclly, i have become transactional; I pay for a service - nothing more.
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I would add that I've found the same thing with westerners, saying one thing one year and something contradictory the next. On this very board too actually. Whatever the boy tells me I choose to believe him, it makes for a beautiful time together.
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Oh, I never confront him. I smile and pay the agreed amount.
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Old git
'Can a society/culture survive if 50% of the male population doesn’t reproduce?.'
Animals do, why shouldn't humans. If 50% of the female population of fertile age doesn't reproduce that's another thing altogether. Look at China - limited to one child for decades, and now a rapidly ageing population. Recently permitted two children, most Chinese appear from the birth statistics to have said "no thanks"
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frequent... you quote from some obscure local rag (not to be believed) about some bull fucking cows...
You have gone down in my estimation...as a serious reliable poster...if you ever were.
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gerefan2
frequent... you quote from some obscure local rag (not to be believed) about some bull fucking cows...
You have gone down in my estimation...as a serious reliable poster...if you ever were.
Excellent news gerefan2; being held high in someone's estimation has never been an aim of mine. I'll pass your comments about being "obscure local rag (not to be believed)" to the Australian national broadcaster, the Australian Broadcasting Corporation, owners and publishers of abc.net.au - I'm sure they'll be suitably mortified
May I suggest you take this idea from The Mikado and add me to your Ignore list
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frequent
Excellent news gerefan2; being held high in someone's estimation has never been an aim of mine. I'll pass your comments about being "obscure local rag (not to be believed)" to the Australian national broadcaster, the Australian Broadcasting Corporation, owners and publishers of abc.net.au - I'm sure they'll be suitably mortified
Please read my whole post. It said "You have gone down in my estimation...as a serious reliable poster...if you ever were." The last four words are important.
All "National Broadcasters" need to be put in their place for posting shiteee. Thank you for your assistance.
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gerefan2
Please read my whole post. It said "You have gone down in my estimation...as a serious reliable poster...if you ever were." The last four words are important.
All "National Broadcasters" need to be put in their place for posting shiteee. Thank you for your assistance.
Added to my list
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AsDaRa
He told me his family thinks he works in a restaurant.
They ALL tell their parents that story.
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But how many of the parents actually believe them? And even more so, the bar-girls who make the same claim?
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AsDaRa
Yesterday I asked a very sexy Vietnamese twink whom I offed in Screw boys (I have left Pattaya) how many customers he has in a month. While sometimes boys refuse to answer this he had no problem. He said (better “he wrote”, because almost all communication was via a translate app) that he had about 18 customers a month. That is pretty good if you ask me. His own estimation is that for other boys in that bar the number is about the same. Also bit unbelievable for me.
A sexy twink getting 18 customers a month seems highly plausible to me. For a start, there has to be a minimum number, as if they don't make enough to live off, they would exit the business. So say 10 a month as a minimum.
Now a cute boy in a busy bar should get plenty of action. In high season, I've seen boys leave bars with punters and be back there 45 minute later. So perhaps the maximum number of customers could be about 60 a month.
If your lad in Bangkok was very sexy, learnt enough English to negotiate AND made a real effort to be very good in bed, I suspect he would easily get about 30 customers a month, as a good percentage would be back to off him again.
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exactly, minimum should be one a day. How difficult can it be,,,most of the gogos are pretty useless so a good one with a winning smile will do well
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Minimum can maybe be one a day for the very cutest, but most customers I am sure want their boy for the night to cum. So I think they do not want to be offed every day because else they can't fullfill the expectations of the customer. What boy can ejaculate say 60 days in row every single day? So maybe some days he refuses and just satisfies himself with some fondle tip money? Because I heard some boys say, also in Jomtien, they sometimes refuse customers. They aren't obliged to go with them. If they don't like them for example, but maybe also because they think they can't cum that day? Can that explain the in some eyes low number of 18? But 18 * 1500/2000 baht + fondle money is a very good monthly income for someone with no education, if you ask me.
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I may be wrong, but I think that is more than 7 eleven pays.
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Perhaps this information will help - "Some people are able to ejaculate (“come”) more often than others. Generally, the younger you are, the more you’re able to ejaculate. After you ejaculate there’s a period of time during which you cannot get erect or ejaculate again. This is called the refractory period. In young people, the refractory period many only last a few minutes. But in older people, the refractory period lasts usually longer, sometimes for several hours or more." - https://www.plannedparenthood.org/le...efore-it-hurts
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AsDaRa
What boy can ejaculate say 60 days in row every single day?
maybe its just me, but despite my aging body clock I could not imagine surviving without ejaculating least once per day!
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I could ejaculate three of four times a day when I was around 17. Those who claim they cannot (and they're usually prostitutes) simply don't want to. At my age now I can still manage twice a day on some days; it's more a question of either mechanics (thank you, Viagra) or external stimulus
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If one cannot lighten the load of borh oneself and the daily life them one should get better porn.
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colmx
maybe its just me, but despite my aging body clock I could not imagine surviving without ejaculating least once per day!
I am jealous, because I noticed this trip it becomes harder for me. Only 4 years ago when I first went to Thailand I had two boys every day and I ejaculated twice. This June holiday I still had two boys every day, but I skip the second ejaculation in the last few days of the trip.
Also it takes in the last days longer for my cock to become rock hard. I think I need to try Viagra.
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I've spent many hours in Screwboys, sometimes going every night I'm in Bangkok. I don't believe the average young man is getting 18 offs a month.
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asdara...you need medical help...or maybe its all in the mind.
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latintopxxx
asdara...you need medical help...or maybe its all in the mind.
I think I need to try Viagra.
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I just asked two men at Screwboys and they say more like 10 offs a month, though obviously it varies low to high season. Anyone who has been a customer there has seen 30 plus men on stage and 6 or so customers only at times. I think we should be generous with drink tips at that bar.
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Half are gay (for pay)?
asking two guys isn't good statistics?
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dab69
Half are gay (for pay)? asking two guys isn't good statistics?
It is if you use Bayes' theorem. In very simple terms this allows you to infer from a very small set of data, but as more data becomes available you modify your inference as necessary. I'd think that a sample size of two would provide a quite low level of confidence however
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Thank you for Bayes theorem. This thread gives us a sample size of three now. My intensive and selfless research of offs at Screwboys adds to my confidence that average monthly offs are lower than 18 per young man. But I will drag myself there next week to improve our data set.
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Mancs
Thank you for Bayes theorem. This thread gives us a sample size of three now. My intensive and selfless research of offs at Screwboys adds to my confidence that average monthly offs are lower than 18 per young man. But I will drag myself there next week to improve our data set.
You probably need to apply a seasonal factor as well. If you ask the boys for the period of say mid-December to mid-January (the true "high season") you'll likely find a higher percentage with an "off" most days. That is because the annual visitor tends to arrive, pick a boy and keep him for the duration of his holiday, and then fly home. That's probably about 18 - 20 "offs" in a 4-week period, since the punter usually pays the bar by the day
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Very very few annual visitors keep one boy for the duration of their stay. The huge majority are butterflies and have a different not every day. The number of offs a boy can expect is in direct proportion to how attractive he is and how well he performs. Go into Nice Boys every evening for 10/12 consecutive days and it's the same boys offed day after day. For some of them an 18 off month would be down on their average.
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arsenal
Very very few annual visitors keep one boy for the duration of their stay. The huge majority are butterflies and have a different not every day. The number of offs a boy can expect is in direct proportion to how attractive he is and how well he performs. Go into Nice Boys every evening for 10/12 consecutive days and it's the same boys offed day after day. For some of them an 18 off month would be down on their average.
I tend to think that too. When I am in a gogo bar I only see 1, 2 boys I would off. Not because the others are all unattractive, but when I pay for sex I settle only for the best of the best. I mean why pay 1000/1500 baht for a good looking boy, when you can get your dream boy for the same prize, if not in that bar, then in another?
Since I also think my taste in boys is not that different from those of other farangs who are into twinks, I sometimes think many boys don't get any offs at all and only fullfill the role of filler. Else the stage looks so empty. But what does this do with such a boy's selfesteem? I hope they don't think they aren't attractive. Many are attractive to me, it is just that in a "gay for pay" environment it is not economically rational to pay 1000/1500 if you can get something slightly better for the same price. I hope these boys who are never offed realize that. They are far from unattractive, it's just that they are below dream/angel level
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AsDaRa
But what does this do with such a boy's selfesteem? I hope they don't think they aren't attractive.
maybe take a few of them to a supermarket meat department late one day so they can see it is normal that all the best cuts are snapped up quickly and the scrag-ends are always left on the shelf. I am sure this will do wonders for their self-esteem - or least help them understand how their customers view them.
bkkguy
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I think there's another way of looking at things. Take Nice Boys. Perhaps boy X is more attractive than boy Y but if I've had boy X, perhaps twice then I'm going to off boy Y because I haven't had him.