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Pattaya?Chonburi Curfew
That's all the fuck they need...
https://www.pattayamail.com/latestne...-curfew-363262
Wonder what the homeless boys will do now?
The non-curfew curfew, as in “deep red” provinces, runs from 9 p.m. to 4 a.m. and forces the closure of gas stations, restaurants, food carts, department stores, retail and convenience stores, all markets, massage shops, pools, water parks, game and internet cafes, amulet shops, beauty clinics, tattoo shops, and all prior venues that were ordered closed.
Hospital canteens are permitted to remain open overnight, and alcohol remains outlawed after 8 p.m. No pairs or groups of people are allowed to congregate in public.
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Why they've waited this long to keep people from leaving Bangkok to travel to other provinces is beyond comprehension.
Maybe Pattaya should take some lessons from little-old Bang Saray around the bay.
Every time there's been an increase in covid cases resulting in Provinces locking down, shutting businesses, etc., Bang Saray simply posts large signs along the oceanfront informing outsiders (mostly from Bangkok) that the beach and hotels are closed to non-residents. Without the beach and lodging, there's little motivation for outsiders to come to Bang Saray.
When this pandemic started the town council hired and staffed around 60 Thai workers who are responsible for cleaning and disinfecting the public areas, including the parks, recreational areas and the beach front. These workers are also equipped with walkie-talkies that they wear around their waists - and trained to observe license plates, vehicle stickers, and the people themselves, to identify "residents" from "outsiders". They are instructed to phone a Town Council Hot Line if any outsiders enter our town. Any outsiders who enter Bang Saray who don't adhere to the posted signs are escorted out of Bang Saray. If they return, they are fined.
As a result of these actions, our little town on the bay remains safe...fully opened to residents...businesses operating as usual...and there has not been a single case of covid among the residents of Bang Saray since this pandemic started 18 month ago.
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The spread of the virus into rural areas is a serious issue for some. One such area in Kamphaeng Phaet has remained safe until the last three weeks or so, when visitors from Bangkok arrived. Just as Bangkok hi-so bars played a crucial role in re-invigorating the spread of Covid in the city a few weeks ago, unrestricted travel out of Bangkok is exacerbating the situation in the very places where health-care is less well- resourced.
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523 new cases today in Chonburi. They are going to need more than just a curfew.
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Newbie99
523 new cases today in Chonburi. They are going to need more than just a curfew.
This is a no brainer, Chonburi needs a mass vaccinations other than Sinovac and needs it now!
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You're not going to get it. Even Sinovac is in short supply. You can't completely blame the Thai govt. The UK spent £12bn on vaccines and Thailand just doesn't have that sort of money lying around..
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arsenal
You're not going to get it. Even Sinovac is in short supply. You can't completely blame the Thai govt. The UK spent £12bn on vaccines and Thailand just doesn't have that sort of money lying around..
Thailand has over $30 billion in foreign exchange reserves. Someone who I cannot mention is allegedly worth over $30 million.
Meanwhile, the Astra Zeneca vaccine costs about £4 per dose (180 baht). So to buy 2 doses for everyone in Thailand would cost about £560 million. The government can afford that.
[The UK government figure includes buying about 5 doses per person and other investment in vaccine development capability. Probably a lot of waste, as is the norm with public spending from any party.]
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[QUOTE=arsenal;280759
...... Thailand just doesn't have that sort of money lying around..[/QUOTE]
Well, not exactly lying around. It's stuffed inside the room safes of those 2,000 fat generals they have on staff.
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Manforallseasons
This is a no brainer, Chonburi needs a mass vaccinations other than Sinovac and needs it now!
"Other than Sinovac" sounds quite stupid at time of pandemy.
By the way: husband who finished Sinovac vaccination 2 months ago, now has 800+ au/ml antibodies level (minimal level for protection is 60 au/ml).
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Moses
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By the way: husband who finished Sinovac vaccination 2 months ago, now has 800+ au/ml antibodies level (minimal level for protection is 60 au/ml).
He must be eating a healthy diet.
Either that or they gave him a real vaccine by mistake...LOL
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Moses
"Other than Sinovac" sounds quite stupid at time of pandemy.
By the way: husband who finished Sinovac vaccination 2 months ago, now has 800+ au/ml antibodies level (minimal level for protection is 60 au/ml).
Can you read English or do you only like anything Russian or Chinese?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...atest-updates/
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-p...ns-2021-07-11/
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The Thai government held the official ceremony July 12 to receive 1,053,090 doses of AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine donated by the government of Japan to help fight the spread of COVID-19.
https://www.pattayamail.com/thailand...hailand-363219
Wish they all went to Pattaya.
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dab69
The Thai government .... to receive 1,053,090 doses of AstraZeneca.
What I want to know is who was the twisted bugger who thought it prudent to order THAT exact number of doses and why one gods earth they couldn't have upped their order by a mere 10 doses to at bring the amount of doses ordered up to a nice round 1,054,000 number, to assist the ease of reporting if nothing else whilst calming my OCD ! :-)
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Manforallseasons
Although Sinovac is bottom of the efficacy charts for vaccines, it is still much better than no vaccine at all. In the attached article the quoted number of infections after double vaccinations was 1%. In the UK, where everyone was vaccinated with other vaccines, it is still the case that half the people being admitted to hospital, and also dying, had already been double vaccinated.
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Manforallseasons
Yes, I can read English. Moreover: I can read numbers (surprise!): with SinoVac and tyrany in China died in 1.5 years the same amount what died in India in 2 hours, the same amount what died in US in 4 days, the same amount what died in UK in 20 days... do you want me to continue to count?
With Sinovac there are 0 (zero) deaths in China at past week and 1800+ deaths in USA with Moderna/Pfizer. As per WHO each 100000 injections of Astra follows by 1 death from blood clot and 1 from heart muscles inflammation. But you still may make "big eyes" when you hear "Sinovac".
P.S. all numbers are counted rough, source https://www.worldometers.info/corona.../#weekly_table
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Moses
With Sinovac there are 0 (zero) deaths in China at past week and 1800+ deaths in USA with Moderna/Pfizer. As per WHO each 100000 injections of Astra follows by 1 death from blood clot and 1 from heart muscles inflammation. But you still may make "big eyes" when you hear "Sinovac".
P.S. all numbers are counted rough, source
https://www.worldometers.info/corona.../#weekly_table
Why am I not surprised that you believe in a country of 1.5 Billion people not 1 death in a week was covid related….and the pope is not catholic.
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Manforallseasons
you believe
I do not believe. I know. After 1 tested positive to COVID Chinese lock quartal in city where he lives and testing whole population 2 times. They have fully automated qr-code system where your green qr-code will became red in 5 min if you was in the same bus where this one positive had ride or at the same shop at next few hours after his visit. With red qr-code you cannot enter to any public place in China, can't use public transport or taxi and must self-quarantine yourself at home. Police and doctors will arrive in 30 min after red QR for to check you and take test. Chinese have check-in every time when they entering any public place or car or train.
Friend of my husband had visit at Friday night to friend's BF apts. And they were locked for one week in apts because one of inhabitants in the same building got red QR-code, so their QR-became red as well because of the same GPS point. Chinese now have most effective preventing viruses spreading system in World, that why with Sinovac and surveillance via QR they have only 170 cases at past week per 1.5 Billion people country.
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Moses. Your point is somewhat selective in.its accuracy. No one is allowed in to China so no new cases are being imported. Only when Sinovac comes up against the new muscle boy variants will we know what it's properties are. It's like saying there are no shark attacks in Kazakhstan and lots in Australia so therefore the people of Kazakhstan must be immune to sharks.
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arsenal
No one is allowed in to China
It isn't true. All Chinese students who studied here in Russian and finished their study are coming back to homeland since end of June. I think what Chinese students from other countries do the same.
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Moses
It isn't true. All Chinese students who studied here in Russian and finished their study are coming back to homeland since end of June. I think what Chinese students from other countries do the same.
I can confirm that Chinese students have been coming and going from the UK for most of the past year.
Requirements keep changing, but upon returning to China, I think they need a PCR test, an antibody test and I think it's 2 weeks in a quarantine hotel, which may even be followed by another week of isolation at home.
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Moses
They have fully automated qr-code system where your green qr-code will became red in 5 min if you was in the same bus where this one positive had ride or at the same shop at next few hours after his visit. With red qr-code you cannot enter to any public place in China, can't use public transport or taxi and must self-quarantine yourself at home. Police and doctors will arrive in 30 min after red QR for to check you and take test. Chinese have check-in every time when they entering any public place or car or train.
Sounds like George Orwell to me.
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A country that restricts Freedom of Speech and Freedom of the Press stands at a distinct disadvantage when it comes to expecting people to believe what they are saying. Can't have it both ways. You're either free to report the covid data accurately, without any constraints from the government, or you're not.
Until the day comes that the Chinese people have Freedom of Speech and Freedom of the Press, the reports and data they present to the World, such as this covid data, will fall under a tremendous amount of scrutiny, and deservedly so.
I'm no expert of this (and don't want to be), but the Sinovac vaccine sure seems to be getting a lot of bad Press lately. The Thais don't even want it - free or not, and the epidemiologists around the planet are saying that it has the lowest efficacy rating of all vaccines, and doesn't stand up against the Delta variant either. Sorry, but this just sounds like cheap Chinese crap to me. ..which isn't at all surprising.
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I don't know exactly why but there is something inherently secretive about the entire nation. Perhaps because in the past the wrong word could get you executed. We live in a world in which almost nothing can be kept secret for ever. Quite why the Chinese govt believe they can successfully watch 1.5bn people but no one can watch them is unfathomable.
Inch by inch the narrative of this is leading to the conclusion it escaped from a lab in Wuhan.
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...appen-12356768
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Moses
"Other than Sinovac" sounds quite stupid at time of pandemy.
By the way: husband who finished Sinovac vaccination 2 months ago, now has 800+ au/ml antibodies level (minimal level for protection is 60 au/ml).
https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/21...-sinovac-study
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand...-every-40-days
And..... "It has an efficacy rate of 50.4% for preventing symptomatic infection, according to data from a Brazilian trial"
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/art...e-side-effects
So better than nothing, but I think most people would consider Sinovac as the worst of the vaccines.
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goji
So better than nothing, but I think most people would consider Sinovac as the worst of the vaccines.
Just look at Chinese sickness numbers and compare with UK, USA or France.
"Most people" still think what God exists and already forgot what USA is the only country in World what made nuclear bombing of civilians.
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Moses
Just look at Chinese sickness numbers and compare with UK, USA or France.
National infection rate figures are never a measure of vaccine efficacy.
Particularly when certain nations were claiming better figures long before they ever started using the vaccine and when some of the figures are considered to be fraudulent by many independent observers.
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Just looked on line..China says 26 cases yesterday and all imported...a billion people and NO new cases?????? and 26 new cases ALL from people coming in???
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""Most people" still think what God exists and already forgot what USA is the only country in World what made nuclear bombing of civilians."
Most people in the world still think that after what the Japanese did in WWII they deserved it.
(300,000 civilians killed in Nanking alone) Anyway, it's war. Fuck the Geneva Convention. You do what you have to to win..
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Blueskytoday
Just looked on line..China says 26 cases yesterday and all imported...a billion people and NO new cases?????? and 26 new cases ALL from people coming in???
That would be 1.4 billion people, and the statistical probability of NO new cases for a population that large in the current climate is ZERO.
If the REAL numbers were being reported FREELY in the Press, sales of Sinovac and Sinopharm vaccines would plummet.
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So, there is an informal curfew now in Chonburi.
The national press is reporting that more restrictions are coming. I am sitting in my condo here wondering WTF I am going to do if there is a total lockdown.
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Newbie99
The national press is reporting that more restrictions are coming. I am sitting in my condo here wondering WTF I am going to do if there is a total lockdown.
How much would a full lockdown really effect you?
I know this sounds like a ridiculous question, but what more can a full lockdown do - that's not already being done. They could completely close the restaurants I guess, but you could always order in. The bars and entertainment venues are already closed - so no big change there. They may possible close the beaches which may be an inconvenience to you.
How do you think a full lockdown would effect you personally?
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Dodger
How much would a full lockdown really effect you?
I know this sounds like a ridiculous question, but what more can a full lockdown do - that's not already being done. They could completely close the restaurants I guess, but you could always order in. The bars and entertainment venues are already closed - so no big change there. They may possible close the beaches which may be an inconvenience to you.
How do you think a full lockdown would effect you personally?
'Full lock-down' has been implemented in a number of cities around the world in the the course of the pandemic and the rules of course vary from city to city. But in broad terms it means you must stay at home and not leave the house without good reason, subject to a few exceptions and concessions. That's not just a night-time curfew; it's stay at home 24/7. The residents of Melbourne are very familiar with this condition and they are currently experiencing a snap 5-day lock-down, announced last Thursday. The 5th time lock-down has been imposed there. The rules are summarised in this article; https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-...mic-/100296392. Work from home, shopping for food only once per day, limited outdoor exercise. That's it.
So, in Thailand, if full lock down means something similar, then it doesn't matter if the bars and beaches are open or closed: you must stay at home. As for the possibility of ordering food delivery from restaurants depends on whether they are allowed to continue operation to provide such a service, or indeed if they believe it to be economically viable (Ref the Silom Soi 4 thread). The likes of McD's and kitchens turning out Thai dishes will probably continue to operate in some form, but whether you will be able to order a meatloaf from Yupins remains to be seen. If you aren't capable of rustling up meals from fresh and basic ingredients, you might be living on cold sandwiches and fruit pies from 7/11 for a while.
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Sen Yai
'Full lock-down' has been implemented in a number of cities around the world in the the course of the pandemic and the rules of course vary from city to city. But in broad terms it means you
must stay at home and not leave the house without good reason, subject to a few exceptions and concessions. That's not just a night-time curfew; it's
stay at home 24/7. The residents of Melbourne are very familiar with this condition and they are currently experiencing a snap 5-day lock-down, announced last Thursday. The 5th time lock-down has been imposed there. The rules are summarised in this article;
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-...mic-/100296392. Work from home, shopping for food only once per day, limited outdoor exercise. That's it.
So, in Thailand, if full lock down means something similar, then it doesn't matter if the bars and beaches are open or closed:
you must stay at home. As for the possibility of ordering food delivery from restaurants depends on whether they are allowed to continue operation to provide such a service, or indeed if they believe it to be economically viable (Ref the Silom Soi 4 thread). The likes of McD's and kitchens turning out Thai dishes will probably continue to operate in some form, but whether you will be able to order a meatloaf from Yupins remains to be seen. If you aren't capable of rustling up meals from fresh and basic ingredients, you might be living on cold sandwiches and fruit pies from 7/11 for a while.
Wow...that's a horse of a different color.
I'm sure glad I don't live in Pattaya.
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Speculation serves no one, the Governor of Chonburi will make an announcement Monday July 19 regarding additional Covid restrictions.
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Allowing restaurants to deliver food should be a big no-no.
Haven't they learnt any lessons from the past? My friends, who were passengers on the Diamond Princess which was moored in Yokohama for weeks at the start of the pandemic, were just sitting there waiting for the virus to eventually get to them. Luckily, they were able to leave the ship in time.
It was later discovered that the virus spread quickly amongst the passengers through the food delivery to the cabins- the virus was on the trays and food packages.
I fear the delta variant is now out of control in Thailand. With a lack of vaccines and a roll-out fiasco taking place, the future looks dark indeed.
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Moses
Very good comparison.
Some of my friends from different countries are pissing me off to no end. What's this counting off cases and pretending that your country is doing so well. For example: Germany has 8k new cases listed but 135 deads. But they give the Dutch policies (who I agree haven't all been up to par) so much negativity. The Netherlands with almost 70k cases but only 10 death in the last 7 days.
The same goes for the UK, Merkel is telling Johnson that he shouldn't open the country back up tomorrow. The UK has almost 300k cases but only double the deaths of Germany.
Could it be that Germany has a problem? I suggest they close their borders and get their people vaccinated so they can stop whining about other countries cases. The only way we can open is if we accept a higher number of covid cases. We need to start focusing on hospitalizations and deaths. These should really be the only numbers we measure this thing by.
Thailand needs to take what it can get when it comes to vaccines.
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Here's the latest scoop on what lockdown restrictions may be imposed in Pattaya beginning Tuesday, July 20:
https://www.pattayamail.com/news/wha...ractice-363963
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Lockdown Restrictions Confirmed:
Honestly, with the bars and entertainment venues all closed, I don't imagine too many people even want to go out after 9:00 PM. Where in the hell would they go?
https://pattayaone.news/new-curfew-r...ll-be-imposed/
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