Thai convicted for murdering 2 russians
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A court in eastern Thailand has sentenced a local man to death for the murder of two Russian women in the beach resort of Pattaya in February. Tatyana Tsimfer, 30, and Liubov Svirkova, 25, were found shot dead in deckchairs on Jomtien Beach 150km (90 miles) south-east of Bangkok.
Anuchit Lamlert confessed to killing them during a robbery because he was afraid they would remember his face.
Anuchit's father, Suchart, said he would appeal against the verdict.
Thai law dictates that an automatic appeal must be held within 30 days for all death sentences.
The country's last execution was carried out in December 2003, when three convicted drug traffickers and a murderer were killed by lethal injection.
Re: Thai convicted for murdering 2 russians
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Originally Posted by WhiteDesire
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6976775.stm
A court in eastern Thailand has sentenced a local man to death for the murder of two Russian women in the beach resort of Pattaya in February. Tatyana Tsimfer, 30, and Liubov Svirkova, 25, were found shot dead in deckchairs on Jomtien Beach 150km (90 miles) south-east of Bangkok.
Anuchit Lamlert confessed to killing them during a robbery because he was afraid they would remember his face.
Anuchit's father, Suchart, said he would appeal against the verdict.
Thai law dictates that an automatic appeal must be held within 30 days for all death sentences.
The country's last execution was carried out in December 2003, when three convicted drug traffickers and a murderer were killed by lethal injection.
My views on these types of killings are known to the board.
Re: Yes, he deserves it ...
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Originally Posted by WhiteDesire
If this case was not so profilic then he would have probably been given a life sentence, he might even get that now.
For the murder of two people, you've gotta be kidding me! Just how many people have to die before folk like you actually give a damn for the victims and their families?
Lets cut the crap here ...
how would some of you like to be put in court and convicted for a crime you categorically did not carry out. I've seen it happen too many times. Those are the people that need protecting and unfortunately at the expense of someone who did commit a crime.
Ok they are following the law in this severe case such as the one we are on about, you might say "he did it", "he should be hung" whatever. BUT the next time (if there is a next time god forbid), then it might be a mistake. That's why a stance has to be made when it comes to capital punishment, you either believe in it for everyone or nobody.
Here's the question
Someone is found guilty in a Court of Law (of a serious crime such as what we are on about) whether they committed the crime or not, it makes no difference, they have been found guilty in a Court of Law - should they face the death penalty.
I don't believe in capital punishment.
I will poll this
Re: Lets cut the crap here ...
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Originally Posted by WhiteDesire
how would some of you like to be put in court and convicted for a crime you categorically did not carry out. I've seen it happen too many times. Those are the people that need protecting and unfortunately at the expense of someone who did commit a crime.
Ok they are following the law in this severe case such as the one we are on about, you might say "he did it", "he should be hung" whatever. BUT the next time (if there is a next time god forbid), then it might be a mistake. That's why a stance has to be made when it comes to capital punishment, you either believe in it for everyone or nobody.
Here's the question
Someone is found guilty in a Court of Law (of a serious crime such as what we are on about) whether they committed the crime or not, it makes no difference, they have been found guilty in a Court of Law - should they face the death penalty.
I don't believe in capital punishment.
I will poll this
I have read and voted in your "poll" which has been worded in such a way that Pol Pot or Thaksin would be proud, If you most conduct a poll....make the options reasonably available instead of wording it to gain biased replies.
In general I have found that most countries have a reasonably fair judicial system and the death penalty is not carried out until exhaustive appeals are heard and debated. I could believe the death of one person being accidental homicide but two.....I really think one must do some serious thinking before jumping to defence.
Re: Lets cut the crap here ...
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Originally Posted by WhiteDesire
how would some of you like to be put in court and convicted for a crime you categorically did not carry out. I've seen it happen too many times. Those are the people that need protecting and unfortunately at the expense of someone who did commit a crime.
Ok they are following the law in this severe case such as the one we are on about, you might say "he did it", "he should be hung" whatever. BUT the next time (if there is a next time god forbid), then it might be a mistake. That's why a stance has to be made when it comes to capital punishment, you either believe in it for everyone or nobody.
Here's the question
Someone is found guilty in a Court of Law (of a serious crime such as what we are on about) whether they committed the crime or not, it makes no difference, they have been found guilty in a Court of Law - should they face the death penalty.
I don't believe in capital punishment.
Whitedesire,
I WAS tried and convicted by a singular judge in a Court of Law in Thailand, for a crime, ANYONE with one bloody ounce of intelligence knew then, and certainly knows now, I did not commit.
Only when the evidence was overwhelming in the side of the defence, as well as Senior political Thais and very high ranking Police involved was I acquitted by all THREE appeal Court Judges.
I am for the death penalty for crimes, which I, and the public at large, class as crimes against humanity, when the evidence is overwhelming and all fair, correct and proper procedure, exhaustive and expensive as it may be, is carried out.
I personally, am referring to disgusting crimes of violence with excuses offered, such as, "I killed them not to be identified," "He looked at me no good, I am sorry but I was drunk" "I was on drugs, I can't remember"
Then Social services moving in with the "tough childhood story etc etc." It does not wash with me, none of it.
Gents, I came from a widowed mother in her thirties with Seven children.
It wasn't great,[ It would have been much more fun being born rich]
I was the second from youngest.
She got out and held two full time[ more or less, jobs down to bring us up.
One went completely wrong, the eldest! The rest of us have managed a reasonable job or vocation without hurting, offending or damaging others}
A situation of accidental etc or where there is a possibility of an accident or no genuine intention, I move to the side of "benefit of doubt" I have never said, in all cases.
Each case "by merit" Poll as you wish, I know in your poll where I am voting.
I will poll this
Re: Thai convicted for murdering 2 russians
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Originally Posted by WhiteDesire
Anuchit Lamlert confessed to killing them during a robbery because he was afraid they would remember his face.
How did he manage to rob them, since he was sitting on a motorbike (on the street), and they were in beach chairs (on the beach), when he fired the first shots? How could they remember his face when they were shot in the back? If they had just been robbed, would they have still been sitting in the beach chairs looking towards the ocean?
This was no robbery.
Dboy
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I AM REALLY SILLY AND STUPID
That's a good description of you Dboy.
55% for no capital punishment/18% "erm this is a tricky
The results on the other board are overwhelmingly in favour of no capital punishment.
Re: Yes, he deserves it ...
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Originally Posted by WhiteDesire
If this case was not so profilic then he would have probably been given a life sentence, he might even get that now.
For the murder of
two people, you've gotta be kidding me! Just how many people have to die before folk like you actually give a damn for the victims and their families?
May be they make him guilty, because they can't find the real one. General Seri surpreme commander of the Royal Thai Police came to Pattaya for investigations and said that he will kick out every Police chief in pattaya (Local Police Chief, Tourist Police Chief, Immigration Police Chief) if the not find the murderer. So they find the subject very quickly, how amazing. What a surprise!!