Oh yes, please point out American hypocrisy! America will do what it will do in its own self interests.Quote:
Originally Posted by fountainhall
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Oh yes, please point out American hypocrisy! America will do what it will do in its own self interests.Quote:
Originally Posted by fountainhall
as you might recall I did say in a previous post there were some valid points to be made about the legality of the actual impeachment process - though I wasn't expecting to be the one to have to make them :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Up2U
true - I mean what's not to like about a man who comes out with gems such as:Quote:
Originally Posted by Up2U
but we are being distracted by the details and missing the big picture...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Wiboon
like St Paul on the road to Damascus I have finally seen the light - the junta and the Bangkok elite are destroying the country to serve their own petty self-interests, what we really need is to return to the golden days of Thai democracy where great leaders like the Shinawatra family and their associates, acting selflessly and without desire for personal gain but only out of love for the country, can one again focus on the real issues such as giving the long-ignored rural poor a political voice, controlling poverty, corruption and cronyism and of course setting the standard for social equality, respect for the rule of law and respect for human rightsQuote:
Originally Posted by Up2U
I am sure your enlightening links and knowledgeable posts will continue to help others on the road to truth and understanding of the real situation in Thailand
bkkguy
I was actually more amused by Nigel Gould-Davies' recycling of the Parisian joke of the 1950s in the Bangkok Post yesterdayQuote:
Originally Posted by fountainhall
bkkguyQuote:
A man walks into a bookshop and asks for a copy of the constitution. "I'm sorry sir," replies the manager, "we don't sell periodicals"
Your twists and sarcasm are clever and we obviously disagree on Thailand's future path, but finally we can say you "have seen the light - the junta and the Bangkok elite are destroying the country to serve their own petty self-interests". Praise to St Paul!Quote:
Originally Posted by bkkguy
Photos from the Thammasat - Chula football game today.
Approximate translations:
"we ask for democracy ; when will it be returned "
" justice is power; power is not justice" - Puey Ungpakorn
Thanks....good to see. The junta will be furious.
I see that Babylon has effectively been closed....it's now a meeting place only.
NYT: The junta drowning the opposion........
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/02/10/wo ... ?referrer=
The purge continues. Former PM to be prosecuted for yellow shirt crackdown.
http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.ph ... 1423383178
and a related article referencing the wiki leaks cables, suggesting that the yellow shirt protesters deliberately baited the police. This saga plays like a broken record. These tactics are employed by both sides.
http://asiancorrespondent.com/43679/the ... ks-cables/
Junta promises elections within a year.
http://bangkokpost.com/news/politics/47 ... hin-a-year
And who will be allowed to vote? surely not the buffaloes (sic)....they'd vote for the wrong people.
And where will be the Army be during elections? "ensuring security and stability" I assume....tanks outside the polling stations.
Opinion: Silencing the Shinawatras.
http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/ ... hinawatras
Thailand slips in World Press Index ranking.
http://index.rsf.org/#!/index-details/THA
Thai junta to diplomats: lese majeste is a cultural offense.
http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.ph ... 1423650043
Did I misread (I only glimpsed this on the front page of the Bangkok Post) or did the Dear Leader admit that the coup was a mistake?
I didn't see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oliver
NCPO plays down military law fears.
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/politic ... -law-fears
The Guardian has this today.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/f ... t-47657511
BP: Prayuth not part of unity talks.
http://www2.bangkokpost.com/news/politi ... nity-talks
Prayuth wants Yingluck to fight cases in court and not flee country.
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politic ... 54393.html
OAG will not push for a Yingluck travel freeze.
http://www2.bangkokpost.com/news/genera ... vel-freeze
BP opinion: In the Thai political rule book, not all crimes are equal.
http://www2.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opi ... -are-equal
Washington Post editorial: Thailand's ineffective rule by force.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ ... story.html
Bangkok University students defy junta with anti-coup banners.
http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.ph ... 06§ion
From the Boston Review, Democracy, Thai-style?
http://bostonreview.net/world/sally-mai ... =og.shares
Amnesty International appeals to the junta.
http://asiancorrespondent.com/130860/ri ... -monarchy/
No anti-junta polling allowed.
http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.ph ... 06§ion
Former PM faces impeachment charges for 2010 crackdown.
http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.ph ... 1424785706
I'm not sure how you missed this one Up2U since KHAOSOD is one of your favorite sources, but in the interest of balance:
Poll: Thais Not Ready For Post-Coup Election
A vast majority of "community leaders" across Thailand believe that Thai people are not yet ready for a new election, a survey shows.
Khaosod English 23 February 2015
as much as they would like us to believe otherwise the Red Shirts may not be the only source of grass roots opinion as the article continues:Quote:
The survey was commissioned by a group called the Thai Researchers in Community Happiness Association (TRICHA) and published on its website yesterday.
The group interviewed "community leaders" in 659 communities across the Kingdom between February 19-21 about a number of political issues, including the question of whether Thailand is ready for a general election.
According to the poll, 71.2 percent of the respondents said Thailand is not ready, citing reasons like "there is still a conflict," "the situation still looks chaotic," "suitable people cannot be found yet," and "the government and the NCPO are doing good works."
I think Fox News also covered this in a special report tonight on how the junta's popularity and support is being misrepresented in the foreign pressQuote:
Orapin Pongprasert, secretary of TRICHA, told Khaosod English that the "community leaders" interviewed in the survey were local administrators holding the ranks of Village Chief and Kamnan (sub-district head). Both positions are semi-elected according to Thai laws; Kamnans are appointed by Village Chiefs, who are elected once by village residents but allowed to hold their post until the age of 60.
"Our survey intended to trace social trends across different issues," Orapin said. "We believe these leaders are the representatives and voices of their communities."
The number of survey respondents were chosen in proportion to the population in each of Thailand's six regions, Orapin added
bkkguy
I think Fox News also covered this in a special report tonight on how the junta's popularity and support is being misrepresented in the foreign pressQuote:
Originally Posted by bkkguy
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Of course, Fox news never "misrepresents" anything as attested to by Bill O'Reilly and their own polling methodology is beyond reproach as we witnessed in the Obama vs Romney election. The TRICHA conveniently made its appearance just after the coup. You may find this article helpful regarding Thai polling methodology.
http://asiancorrespondent.com/126917/wh ... hai-junta/
If Faux News says it, it must be so......
By the way, who are these "community leaders"? Who appointed them? for whom do they speak? and if everything is so hunky-dory, why the repression? the censorship? surely the junta would be voted back into power by a grateful public were an election to be held? So why delay? And if there was such a yearning for a royalist- militarist government, why were the yellow shirts so spectacularly unsuccessful?
Until the comic-opera generals admitted their support of course...with their guns.
I find this highly-suspect attempt to suggest that the Thai working-class are really just children desperate for father figures telling them what to do and what to think, dispiriting. And, I fear, suspiciously close to the Boer/segregationist view of those whom they consider lower-caste.
Constitution Drafting Committee (CDC) agrees to to indirect selection of the Senate.
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/general ... enate-pick
thanks but I don't need a primer on interpreting Thai polls or a pocket history of TRICHA, but it is just such a wonderful name - "Thai Researchers in Community Happiness Association" - I had to check the URL to make sure i hadn't clicked through to The Onion news site by mistake!Quote:
Originally Posted by Up2U
I keep forgetting you and Oliver don't do sarcasm, but after you constant tirade of sometimes highly suspect anti-junta links I just thought in the interest of balance a highly suspect pro-junta link was in order - and I don't know if I should be pleased or worried that both you and Oliver seem to share my views on Fox News!
you didn't even have to click through to the article for an answer to that, you just had to read the quote in my post, but you couldn't even manage that in your rush to get your usually litany of responses inQuote:
Originally Posted by Oliver
or is it just dispiriting because Taksin is not the favored father figure?Quote:
Originally Posted by Oliver
bkkguy
Thammasat students light up candles for the fallen lese majeste critic and teacher.
http://prachatai.org/english/node/4821? ... ce=dlvr.it
Poll: Big majority satisfied with the NCPO.
http://www2.bangkokpost.com/news/genera ... -with-ncpo
(and somebody said I don't do sarcasm)
I could make a sarcastic comment but I will refrain. This letter is from Thailand's new ambassador to the U.S.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ ... story.html
Army issues warning to CDC critics.
http://www2.bangkokpost.com/news/genera ... dc-critics
Activists call for NAAC probe of NLA "nepotism".
http://bangkokpost.com/news/politics/48 ... a-nepotism
Mildly surprised to read this opinion piece in the conservative The Nation, "The Emperor has no clothes".
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/opinion ... 55214.html
In the case of a right-wing rag that was so supportive of the yellow-shirt thugs, as ye sow, so shall ye reap. It doesn't take much of an intellect to be able to predict what happens when a bunch of career military men take control of a country.
Keeping it in the Family.
http://bangkokpost.com/news/politics/48 ... otism-halt
Junta praises itself on human rights at U.N. assembly.
http://prachatai.org/english/node/4835? ... ce=dlvr.it