Freedom House has downgraded Thailand's internet ranking from "partly free" to "not free".
http://www.prachatai.com/english/node/4566
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Freedom House has downgraded Thailand's internet ranking from "partly free" to "not free".
http://www.prachatai.com/english/node/4566
Activists call for a return of human rights.
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/general ... man-rights
Issan people use Human Rights Festival to air grievances.
http://isaanrecord.com/2014/12/11/isaan ... ensorship/
Quite hilarious, considering that there wasn't a time in the past when human rights ever existed in Thailand, what's there to return? I mean, truly existed, enforceable even by - for example - a stateless hill tribe activist. What is really meant instead of human rights, I suppose, is citizenship rights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Up2U
Like voting, you mean? How can "citizenship rights" (whatever they are) be enforced without governments accountable to their citizens?Quote:
Originally Posted by lego
Your ignorance of Thailand, the wider world and political institutions has been much on display recently. When I wrote about "civil society", you decided that meant "civilization"; here it appears you're unaware of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Now you're claiming "there wasn't a time in the past when human rights ever existed in Thailand"; in another post you are proud of your ignorance of the events of 1976 and 1992. Have you not heard of the 1932 revolution? :))
Activists crash Human Rights awards ceremony.
http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.ph ... 1418375456
the recent US court case seeking human rights for chimps failed - is the buffalo likely to be a more successful cause in Thailand?Quote:
Originally Posted by Up2U
bkkguy
perhaps you can share with us your more extensive knowledge of "Thailand, the wider world and political institutions" and the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights and indicate when and which exactly of the 30 Articles of the declaration have ever been well respected in Thailand - either before or after the "1932 revolution"Quote:
Originally Posted by kommentariat
bkkguy
It's official...
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/39 ... orces-wife
And the government's slant.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Up2U
http://thainews.prd.go.th/centerweb/new ... 2120010015
From the General : CIA'S torture in Thailand is a USA internal matter.
http://thainews.prd.go.th/centerweb/new ... 2130010005
It's much more fun teasing the morally bankrupt.Quote:
Originally Posted by bkkguy
Voting rights can be returned, because people were allowed to vote at some point(s). Human rights cannot be returned. You can only return what was there in the first place. That's all.Quote:
Originally Posted by kommentariat
The present regime jumped in because people forgot their TABLE MANNERS.
Time at the feeding trough must be shared (no over- staying!) to maintain balance and harmony.
No one mentioned returning rights but enforcing rights. Both words have 3 syllables so in your world I guess that means they're equivalent.Quote:
Originally Posted by lego
Opinion from the Asiancorrespondent: Post-coup oppression teaches Thais a lesson on human rights.
http://asiancorrespondent.com/129138/op ... an-rights/
Rumors, only rumors.
http://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opin ... p-on-power
Thanks for posting this; there are reasons for optimism.
And what of Chiang Mai and Isaan? when will the Red Shirts rise again?
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Originally Posted by Oliver
bkkguy
or,Quote:
Originally Posted by bkkguy
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Until they have a true champion the prospects look pretty bleak.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oliver
From Forbes : Thai junta destroys democracy,.......
http://www.forbes.com/sites/dougbandow/ ... ging-them/
If Up2U knows the answer to this question then so does the Army who will be ready for it???Quote:
Originally Posted by Oliver
Remember Colonel Daeng who was assassinated by the fascists during the Red Shirt demonstrations? There may be other middle-ranking Army officers who wish to serve the people of Thailand rather than its plutocracy. And remember that many of the the rank and file are the children of the poor. They are the ones who have to do National Service, after all.
Perhaps, somewhere in an isolated army base in the hills of Chiang Rai province, a Thai Hugo Chavez sits, waiting.....we can only hope!
You must really, really hate the Thais and wish the worst for Thailand if that is your hope, Oliver.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oliver
The latest news from Caracas: "The sprawling street market that radiates outward from the metro station in Petare, CaracasтАЩs largest slum, is the retail equivalent of an anti-Target. ThereтАЩs no organization to it. Tube socks and school supplies are sold beside giant pyramids of pineapple and piled yucca. Leopard-print hot pants stretch over mannequin buttocks next to the stinky stalls of fishmongers.
The bazaar was known until this month as one of the cityтАЩs biggest open-air black markets, the place to find all the scarce items that shoppers must queue up for hours to get in supermarkets, or canтАЩt find at all. Earlier this year, toilet paper and corn┬нmeal were scarce; lately itтАЩs diapers and deodorant that have тАЬgotten lost,тАЭ as Venezuelans say.
Authorities mostly turned a blind eye to the informal commerce, but late last month Venezuelan President Nicol├бs Maduro went on TV to decree a ban on street sales of coffee, eggs, shampoo and some 50 other тАЬregulatedтАЭ items whose prices┬н are capped by the government. He ordered the National Guard to police market stalls for such items as mayonnaise and powdered milk, and threatened to prosecute recidivist violators." http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the ... story.html
Or perhaps you'd like the democratic style of the Hamas-Fatah situation in Palestine to be taken up in Thailand? How do you distinguish Abbas, who was elected to serve until 9 January 2009, but due to Palestinian Internal conflict unilaterally extended his term for another year and continues in office even years after that second deadline expired, from Prayuth?
Abbas? He's a collaborator with the Zionists. None of my comrades in Palestine have any respect for him. A US poodle. in eleven years of staying there, I can't remember meeting anyone who trusts him....and that includes members of his own party.
I'm a PFLP man. I thought you'd have worked that out.
As for Thailand, let the people choose....all the people , not just the rich and powerful. I'd support the result- would you? Or is democracy too dangerous?
I've always taken you to be a complete fool. I thought you'd have worked that out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oliver
You mean like "all the people" chose against Scotland becoming independent this year, but the minority battles on? What is "all the people"? Compulsory voting (like Australia)? An Electoral College (like the USA)? First-past-the-post (like the UK)? Slogans are easy - and meaningless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oliver
Poor old Ollie's last successful hero was Joseph Stalin, a murdering maniac who kicked the bucket too early to be granted a World Court life in prison sentence ... but who really should have been hanged.
Other Oliver's list of losers:
- ~ Castro: Started off in the right vein but gave in to the Communist's love of Personality Cultists and 7-hour speeches which bored every Cuban to death. His brother seems to understand things a bit more than Fidel, but will have to wait until The Big 'F' pops the Big One to actually get some serious tidying up done.
~ Hugo Chavez: Already mentioned, and good riddance. An uneducated buffoon who never got anything right. Venezuela may perhaps survive after his pre-picked #2 buffoon is handed his walking papers ... but great damage was done to this country under these two fools).
~ Robert Mugabe. One of my absolute fav monsters. Started off as a kind of socialist (thus Oliver's devotion), but turned out to be a corrupt megalomaniac and dictator of the worst kind: a very nasty piece of work indeed. Zimbabwe is now one of the world's quintessential basket cases using just about any metric one wishes to employ. Another demented African Boss Man who should be in the dock at The Hague.
~ Hamas: Terrorists at their very black hearts ~ the top echelon that is, their 'soldiers' are nothing but cannon fodder ~ this pack of heroes known well for tossing their captive PLO brothers off rooftops ~ and other funny-buggers ~ during the The Troubles where the two groups squared off a few years ago. They won an election, once ... big deal. They're frightened out of their boots to call another considering the shamozzle they've made of their promised responsibilities and their never-ending rocketeering. They have done well on the propaganda department ... fooling everyone, which after all is the one and only point of propaganda. At least Abbas ~ granted, he's no Lincoln ~ desires peace (one of theses bloody days) ... wherein Hamas's infatuation with never-ending war leads straight to Ollie's dream world.
~ Mao Tse Tung: Dead, well-forgotten, killed million of his own people. Ollie's touchstone of revolution ... "some folks just have to bloody-well die to reach the Promised Land ... ": Collateral damage, anyone?
~ Pol Pot: This one I must say is debatable. I have never actually read whether Oliver held this animal up to the shining light. But ... Pol Pot did regard himself as socialist, and quoted Marx and Lenin (poor Karl will be rolling in his grave over that one) just before every mass slaughter. Consequently, Oliver by inference should find him to have at least some human qualities worth lauding. I wouldn't doubt it for a minute.
Welcome to Ollie's World ... defending the obviously indefensible.
Smiles appears to be a character who is always ready with an attack post lacking logic and mean of spirit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smiles
Looked in the mirror recently?Quote:
Originally Posted by marti
:ymparty: Merry Christmas Martini.Quote:
Originally Posted by marti
A repressive government gets even more repressive. Invest in a vpn!
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/general ... or-content
from one repressive government to another:
VPN traffic repositories used by NSA to find keys, crack encryption of target traffic
bkkguy
And neither of them are very keen on those with a darker skin-colour than the ruling class. In fact, their lives and well being aren't worth much to banksters, law-enforcement (sic) officers et al. Red Shirts are needed in Thailand, obviously, but a movement which supported the poor in the US would be of benefit to the whole world.
Thanks for that link.Quote:
Originally Posted by bkkguy
Thai Human Rights Commission slated for downgrading.
http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.ph ... section=11
Will ripples of dissent turn tidal?
http://news.asiaone.com/news/asia/will- ... turn-tidal
Andrew MacGregor Marshall reports on his FB page:
Proposal for direct election of cabinet.
http://asia.nikkei.com/magazine/2015011 ... of-cabinet
Panel seeks criminal charges for Yingluck.
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/general ... r-yingluck