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Today, I highlight one report in the Bangkok Post with some not so good news for those hoping to visit Thailand from South Korea, China, Italy, Iran, Macau and Hong Kong. In the UK, two more people died of coronavirus yesterday, taking the death toll to five. A total of 46 more confirmed cases were announced, bringing the overall figure to 319, but so far the UK is not included on the list.
And as Italy's coronavirus death toll jumped on Monday by 97 to 463, I highlight one story from BBC News:
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Govt ramps up Covid-19 measures
Medical certificate needed before flying
published : 10 Mar 2020 at 05:00
newspaper section: News
writer: Post Reporters
The Civil Aviation Authority of Thailand (CAAT) is requiring travellers from Covid-19 infected countries and territories to produce medical certificates prior to boarding their flights to Thailand to curb the spread of the novel coronavirus.
Transport Minister Saksayam Chidchob said on Monday the CAAT has issued an official announcement, saying travellers from South Korea, China, Italy, Iran, Macau and Hong Kong who fail to show their health certificates to authorities before boarding their flights to Thailand will not be allowed to continue their journey.
The restrictions are in line with Thailand's Communicable Diseases Act (2015), the minister said . . .
For the full report see: https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand...id-19-measures
And from BBC News . . .
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Coronavirus: Italy extends quarantine measures nationwide
10 March 2020
Italy is extending its coronavirus quarantine measures, which include a ban on public gatherings, to the entire country.
Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte said that people would only be permitted to travel for work or family emergencies.
He said the measures, which come into effect on Tuesday, were to defend the most fragile members of society.
Italy's coronavirus death toll jumped on Monday by 97 to 463. It is the worst-hit country after China.
The number of confirmed infections also increased to 9,172, up from 7,375 on Sunday, official figures show . . .
For the full report see: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51810673
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Im not in pattaya at the moment , but a friend who is , was telling me tonight that the talk on the beach this afternoon was that the virus has reached pattaya and that 4 thais and 1 falang.had caught it. Any one know if this is true, or just as trump would say its false news
Oh c’mon, aot871, we all know that no self respecting virus such as Covid-19 would be seen dead in Pattaya! ;)
And the following image came to me from an Australian friend via facebook . . .
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as often as they shower?
wait, the sewers are just below the sidewalks with VENTS.
something to think about as the surf from Jomtien condos rolls up into a spray and the breese wafts it up on the beach.
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as often as they shower?
wait, the sewers are just below the sidewalks with VENTS.
something to think about as the surf from Jomtien condos rolls up into a spray and the breese wafts it up on the beach.
How romantic. Ahh to be in Pattaya right now.....sigh...
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Breaking news from London!
Boris Johnson was infected with the corona virus, however the virus was unable to survive in his system....it was overwhelmed by his naturally forming bullshit !
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Just back from doctors office USA. I was trying to get a travel certificate to fly from USA - Seoul- BKK when the doctor said upon return from any Asian country I would have to quarantine at an outside USA army base for 14 days before being readmitted into the USA.
There goes my vacation.
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dab69
Just back from doctors office USA. I was trying to get a travel certificate to fly from USA - Seoul- BKK when the doctor said upon return from any Asian country I would have to quarantine at an outside USA army base for 14 days before being readmitted into the USA.
There goes my vacation.
I see a perceived risk with transiting via Seoul. However, Thailand has a smaller percentage of the population with active coronavirus infections than the US.
Also, the growth rate in US cases seems way higher. And the US seems to have a major problem organizing tests.
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We are due to travel from Ireland next week to Pattaya.It looks less likely every day now.This virus is spreading rapidly.Probably better safe than sorry.
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frequentfliers
We are due to travel from Ireland next week to Pattaya.It looks less likely every day now.This virus is spreading rapidly.Probably better safe than sorry.
So there’s three or four of us lot all fairly well decided now on pulling the plug on our Thailand trip in the next two or three weeks - and us all generally the hardcore of travels who would travel “no matter what”, so if that’s us all (having) to throw in the towel that certainly doesn’t bode well for tourism numbers to come in Thailand in general over Songkran etc perhaps ! :-(
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Today, I highlight one report from the Bangkok Post, two reports from BBC News and one report from The Times:
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Inbound arrivals face mandatory measures
Move aims to curtail coronavirus spread
published : 11 Mar 2020 at 06:15
newspaper section: Business
writer: KOMSAN TORTERMVASANA, SUCHIT LEESA-NGUANSUK and THARITTAWAT SAMEJAIDEE
The Department of Disease Control (DDC) plans to impose compulsory measures for all inbound arrivals, including notifying personal information and contact information such as mobile phone numbers and email addresses as part of steps to control the Covid-19 outbreak.
The measure will commence on Thursday and all personal information for inbound tourists will be kept in the system for 14 days after their arrival . . .
For the full report see: https://www.bangkokpost.com/business...atory-measures
And from BBC News . . .
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Coronavirus: Troops sent to New York 'containment zone'
11 March 2020
New York Governor Andrew Cuomo has announced a one-mile (1.6km) coronavirus "containment zone" around a town north of New York City.
New Rochelle has seen "probably the largest cluster" of US cases, he said.
National Guard troops will be used to clean schools in the town and deliver food to any quarantined individuals.
The death toll in Italy, one of the countries worst hit by the virus, rose to 631 as the authorities placed the whole country in lockdown.
The latest increase in deaths in Italy - 168 - is the biggest the country has recorded in a single day, and the total number of cases went from 9,172 to 10,149 . . .
For the full report see: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51826317
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Coronavirus: Airlines cancel thousands of flights
11 March 2020
Thousands of flights have been cancelled worldwide as airlines struggle to cope with a slump in demand caused by the coronavirus outbreak.
Ryanair will stop services to and from Italy from Friday until 8 April, with BA scrapping its routes until 4 April as the country goes into lockdown.
EasyJet has cancelled all of its flights to and from Italy between 10 March and 3 April.
It has said it will operate "rescue flights" in the coming days.
Norwegian Air has also said it will cut about 3,000 flights in the next three months, about 15% of its capacity . . .
For the full report see: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-51818492
And from The Times . . .
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Nadine Dorries: minister with coronavirus had been in No 10
Sixth patient dies as British cases rise to 373
Steven Swinford, Deputy Political Editor | Chris Smyth, Whitehall Editor Eleni Courea, Political Reporter
Wednesday March 11 2020, 12.00am GMT, The Times
A health minister who has met hundreds of people in parliament in the past week and attended a reception at No 10 with Boris Johnson has had coronavirus diagnosed, The Times can reveal.
Nadine Dorries, who played a role in drawing up legislation to tackle coronavirus, fell ill on Friday last week and her diagnosis was confirmed yesterday evening. She is now in isolation and understood to be recovering.
The identity of the individual who infected Ms Dorries is unknown but the minister has been working in parliament and the Department of Health and Social Care for the past week. Officials are identifying all those with whom she has been in contact since contracting the virus, including MPs. Any who have displayed similar symptoms will be tested . . .
For the full report see: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/
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Originally Posted by
dab69
Just back from doctors office USA. I was trying to get a travel certificate to fly from USA - Seoul- BKK when the doctor said upon return from any Asian country I would have to quarantine at an outside USA army base for 14 days before being readmitted into the USA.
There goes my vacation.
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Originally Posted by
frequentfliers
We are due to travel from Ireland next week to Pattaya.It looks less likely every day now.This virus is spreading rapidly.Probably better safe than sorry.
And two quotes from the Quick questions guys - which airline to bkk - Emirates, Lufthansa. Etihad or Qatar !? topic:
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Originally Posted by
colmx
My boss has just forbidden me from travelling to Thailand next month (in fairness he also cancelled his own trip to SE Asia)
So it looks like I will be spending Songkran locked up at home chomping on Easter eggs!
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You and me both perhaps - albeit my enforced jail time in the office will I fear have to be self imposed which makes it even worse! Even in the last two days business has started to suffer with various work issues now cropping up due to the virus scares. Likewise I can just feel my staffs nervousness that they may have to self isolate and what will happen re their work ( I dint mean jobs there btw I mean their work load).
All of which is starting to make it look almost impossible for me to say “oh by the way guys, see in the middle of all of this, I’m fucking off to Thailand to party for a bit - but don’t worry I’ll try not to bring anything back with me when I return”.
So yeah, I hate to admit it but your boss probably has a point :-(
I was sorry to read that three and possibly four of our members will be cancelling their proposed trips to Thailand due to the Coronavirus. I know it’s probably of no consolation, but I had to cancel last year’s trip and I have a rough idea how you are all feeling.
And, I’d like to say, don’t worry chaps, I’ll take care of all the lads you would have seen and will now miss out on. But sadly, I am barely capable of taking care of all the young men I meet! So others, far more qualified than me, will have to step into the breach. ;)
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Jellybean
I’ll take care of all the lads you would have seen and will now miss out on.. ;)
And yet strangely that doesn't seem to help at all somehow with easing our woes .....funny that eh :)
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So there’s three or four of us lot all fairly well decided now on pulling the plug on our Thailand trip in the next two or three weeks - and us all generally the hardcore of travels who would travel “no matter what”, so if that’s us all (having) to throw in the towel that certainly doesn’t bode well for tourism numbers to come in Thailand in general over Songkran etc perhaps ! :-(
Make that five and six on the cusp of reluctantly cancelling.
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Whilst I'm sorry for the lot of us who are thinking of not travelling or have already pulled the plug I have to say that for each person I hear that are the same boat it does hgo a little way to helping ease my own doubts and indecision as to whether I perhaps am just over reacting or not in that others obviously also feel the same way and feel that it's prudent perhaps not to travel just now - not that that helps any of us of course, but still, nice to know its NOT just me wringing me hands and wondering should I or shouldn't I ! :-(
I finally got my refund from Emirates ( minus 200 euro :-( ) for my Dub to Japan, Bangkok to Dublin flight so at least that's something. My Japan to Bkk flight is a no chance of a refund flight, likewise my Bkk hotel is already paid for and no refundable and whilst I've 'booked" with Mosiak I have't paid yet and I'm hoping that after all these years an apologetic email to the boys on the desk there may get me out of that booking hopefully. So cost wise only about £350 down so far, but money of course isn't the issue and it's the loss of the trip that's eating me more than anything else, ESPECIALLY over songkran AND as it falls at the same time as our UK Easter holidays for once meaning I was able to take longer off work too this time :-(
Hmmmm gotta go check......I wonder how busy Bali is at this time of the year ! ???? :-) lol ( which ok sort of defeats the purpose of NOT travelling I know, but somehow it feels like the lesser of two evils perhaps.)
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I don't know if this helps NIrish-guy, but many years ago my former boss, whom I shall simply refer to as ‘M’, said to me, 'Remember, you only live once Mr Bean.' To which I replied, ‘How very true, Sir.’ Well, I was young and ambitious and didn’t want to blot my copybook. :)
But seriously, if anything, with my underlying health conditions, I am more concerned about the situation back home in the UK than out here in Thailand. Every day, over breakfast and last thing at night, I listen to talk radio from London and the majority opinion from listeners across the UK would appear to be that HMG has not acted quickly enough to protect UK borders and has put the country at risk. Now, whether that is true or not, I have no way of knowing. But I do find the Government’s worst case scenario figures for deaths in the UK from Covid-19 truly frightening.
But enough of this gloomy talk, I'd like to end on a positive note, and just to cheer everyone up, here's some photos I took earlier today in Pattaya:
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Jellybean
..............many years ago my former boss, whom I shall simply refer to as ‘M’,
your Boss was called "M" and you claim to be a civil servant !??? OMG I knew it, Civil servant my ass, you worked for MI6 Secret Intelligence didn't you !?!
I can just see you now, standing there on the stage in Nice Boys with your "pistol" in your hand, shouting stand back boys, Jelly's arrived, the name is Bean, Jelly Bean, Licenced to thrill !!! lol
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I think my doctor was full of crap. The CDC website says "self-quarantine" upon returning from South Korea, etc.
Nothing about quarantine in an Army base (Guantanamo).
I think she just didn't have access to a test for cor19 for my travel document and didn't want me to travel to anywhere in Asia.
The bitch!
I am going to be real grumpy at work for a month or so.
But my friend will be impressed- I transferred my plane ticket to his BIRTHDAY!
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Well, overthere in that island in the Northsea even the minister for public health seems to have been able to catch it, apparently even on a meeting with a certain proud new father named BoJo.
As for BKK here: as to now never seen a mask in any of the palce Ive been inside to as for this forum. But yesterday in a well-known m2m msg shop, there was a bottle of that sanitizer one now sees everywhere and is even requested to use when entering certain shopping centres. But the heat now on means frequent changes in out and inside with AC fully blowing means one is prone to catch a cold with sneezing etc. as result.
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Today, I highlight two reports from BBC News, one report from The Times, two reports from the Bangkok Post and one report from MailOnline:
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Coronavirus: Trump halts travel from Europe to US
12 March 2020
US President Donald Trump has announced sweeping new travel restrictions on Europe in a bid to combat the spread of the coronavirus.
In a televised address on Wednesday, he said all travel from Europe would be suspended for the next 30 days.
But he said the "strong but necessary" restrictions would not apply to the UK, where 460 cases of the virus have now been confirmed.
There are 1,135 confirmed cases of the virus across the US, with 38 deaths.
"To keep new cases from entering our shores, we will be suspending all travel from Europe to the United States for the next 30 days," Mr Trump said . . .
For the full report see: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51846923
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Coronavirus: Italy shuts nearly all shops as WHO declares pandemic
12 March 2020
Italy is to close all shops except food stores and pharmacies in Europe's toughest lockdown yet as virus deaths and cases continue to mount.
Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte said bars, restaurants, hairdressers and non-essential company departments would also close. Home delivery would be allowed.
Earlier the World Health Organization (WHO) said the outbreak was a pandemic.
WHO chief Dr Tedros said cases outside China had soared 13-fold in two weeks.
He said he was "deeply concerned" by "alarming levels of inaction".
• What is a pandemic and why use the term now?
• Stock markets plunge as WHO confirms pandemic
A pandemic is defined as a disease that is spreading in multiple countries around the world at the same time . . .
For the full report see: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51845817
And from The Times:
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New ‘social distancing’ rules as Covid-19 is declared a pandemic
Chris Smyth, Whitehall Editor
Thursday March 12 2020, 12.01am GMT, The Times
Advice on how people should keep their distance from one another is to be issued by the government as the World Health Organisation declared the coronavirus outbreak to be a pandemic.
Boris Johnson will announce today that Britain is moving into the “delay” phase of fighting the virus as he chairs a Cobra emergency meeting to sign off “social-distancing” measures telling people how to stay away from others.
Advice to stay at home if you have a cough and fever even if you have not travelled, ways of “cocooning” elderly people, and suggestions about standing farther apart will all be considered. Ministers are pledging “whatever it takes” to fight the virus . . .
For the full report see: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/
And two reports from the Bangkok Post:
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Thailand cancels visa on arrival for 18 countries, visa exemptions for 3
published : 11 Mar 2020 at 15:21
updated: 11 Mar 2020 at 20:24
writer: Bangkok Post and Reuters
Thailand on Wednesday cancelled the grant of visa on arrival for 18 countries and visa exemption for three others to contain the spread of the coronavirus, Interior Minister Anupong Paojinda said.
Previously, nationals of 18 countries or territories could use their passports or travel documents to apply for Visa on Arrival (VoA) at Thai immigration checkpoints.
The 18 places are: Bulgaria, Bhutan, China (including Taiwan), Cyprus, Ethiopia, Fiji, Georgia, India, Kazakhstan, Malta, Mexico, Nauru, Papua New Guinea, Romania, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Uzbekistan, and Vanuatu.
Visa exemption will be cancelled for South Korea, Italy and Hong Kong, the interior minister said . . .
For the full report see: https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand...emptions-for-3
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Six new local infections lift Covid-19 cases to 59
Airport immigration officer among new patients
published : 11 Mar 2020 at 13:18
updated: 11 Mar 2020 at 15:12
writer: Online Reporters
The Public Health Ministry on Wednesday reported six new local cases of coronavirus disease (Covid-19) infection, five Thais and one Singaporean, lifting the total number of cases to 59.
Of the six new cases, two work at Suvarnabhumi airport, Sophon Iamsirithavorn, director of the Department of Disease Control, said.
One, a 21-year-old immigration officer, fell ill on March 8, developing a fever, a runny nose and a headache. Tests at two labs showed positive for Covid-19 infection, Dr Sophon said . . .
For the full report see: https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand...19-cases-to-59
And a friend drew my attention to the following report from MailOnline, which was updated on 11 March 2020:
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How one man spread coronavirus to NINE other people on his bus in China: Scientists find the deadly virus can travel four times the 'safe' distance and linger in the air for over 30 minutes in confined places
• Scientists studied one man in China who passed the virus to 13 people in total
• On the bus, germs jumped as far as 4.5 metres to other travellers
• It lingered in the air for up to 30 mins, after the original man had got off the bus
• People who wore masks on the bus were not infected, the study found
• Coronavirus bugs also stayed on surfaces for days, especially when it was hot
• Scientists said their findings show face masks are useful protective measures
• UPDATE: The study published in a Chinese journal has since been retracted
By Vanessa Chalmers Health Reporter For Mailonline
Published: 11:07 GMT, 10 March 2020 | Updated: 11:11 GMT, 11 March 2020
For the full report see: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...eople-bus.html
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And once again, just to lighten the mood, via facebook, advice on how to self isolate at home:
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Wow, Trump suspends all travel and trade from all of Europe to US for 30 days from Friday midnight - we’ll, all EXCEPT travel and trade from the UK it seems ! I guess his good friend Boris must have called in a favour or two - I wonder what that’ll cost us later in return !?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51846923
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And once again, just to lighten the mood, via facebook, advice on how to self isolate at home:
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That is an equivalent of an entire forest being felled.
I wish they tried some other proven and effective measures like the bum water spray.
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Wow, Trump suspends all travel and trade from all of Europe to US for 30 days from Friday midnight - we’ll, all EXCEPT travel and trade from the UK it seems ! I guess his good friend Boris must have called in a favour or two - I wonder what that’ll cost us later in return !?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51846923
Nirish guy, Unless I'm misreading that link Trump appears to have banned TRAVEL only....I do not see any mention of a TRADE ban. If it turns out he has banned TRADE as well, that would have huge repercussions. Maybe they edited that press release. He can ban travel all he likes, travel in general is already reduced by the public themselves.
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Jellybean
Every day, over breakfast and last thing at night, I listen to talk radio from London and the majority opinion from listeners across the UK would appear to be that HMG has not acted quickly enough to protect UK borders and has put the country at risk. ]
Yes Jellybean I agree, the Corona Virus is very serious.....and nothing to be sneezed at!
Ok I'll get my coat AGAIN.
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Zebedee
Nirish guy, Unless I'm misreading that link Trump appears to have banned TRAVEL only....I do not see any mention of a TRADE ban..
Yes they’ve edited the news conference clip down that was attached in that link from when I watched it last night. To be fair it was 2am when I was watching it and I could of course have misheard him, but I actually thought I specifically heard him mention “anyTHING coming Europe and referring to people AND trade - which of course I found strange myself.
So one of two things, they’ve corrected and edited out a “misspoken phrase” by him or I’ve misheard or misunderstood his news conference when tired, obviously more likely the latter ( although actually I’m still not so sure about that ...) anyway, sorry for any confusion caused re that either way as you’re right, the written statement to follow his news conference doesn’t mention trade.
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NO ! I wasn't dreaming - I've just watched his original news conference again ( I'll try and post a link below) and he said very clearly - "These prohibitions will not only apply to the tremendous amount of trade and cargo but various other things as we get approval, anything coming from Europe to the united States is what we are discussing" THAT to me is fairly clear and unambiguous in intent - I wonder HAVE they rolled back on that then this morning on realising that it's both unnecessary and going to cause even more problems for everyone that any travel ban might !
Here's his words in his news conference ......
http://news.sky.com/story/coronaviru...-days-11955860
AHHHH EDIT No 2
So, I was right, he DID say it -- and then he TWEETED later to correct / alter his verbal statement and confirmed that's not what he meant and dropped it !!
My God, that's that sort of really stupid ( and costly) admin mistake you expect the likes of the Thai Government, not the USA for gods sake ! Someone's head should certainly roll for that major gaff !
For once you can't even really blame Trump himself as of course he just ( barely) reads what he's given by his press people I imagine, UNLESS it WAS him who insisted that was in there and someone afterwards THEN pointed out just how crazy that would be to him AFTER his news conference aired - unfortunately nothing from Trump surprises anymore !
Here's the BBC news article comment re this....
"Mr Trump initally said the travel suspension would also "apply to the tremendous amount of trade and cargo" coming from Europe into the US. He later tweeted to say that trade would "in no way be affected".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51846923
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Zebedee
Nirish guy, Unless I'm misreading that link Trump appears to have banned TRAVEL only....I do not see any mention of a TRADE ban. If it turns out he has banned TRADE as well, that would have huge repercussions. Maybe they edited that press release. He can ban travel all he likes, travel in general is already reduced by the public themselves.
Watch the speech. It's very clear what he says.
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Trump hasn't banned all flights to and from Europe. The W.H. has clarified it as Schengen countries.
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It sounds more and more that this was either a rushed news conference and knee jerk reaction, perhaps to a Trump "command" ( and then corrected later by people who may actually have HALF an idea how the world works and what they need to be doing - unlike him) OR ( as I now think is more probable) he intentionally said what he did for public consumption ( in the run up to an election !) so he can talk about and replay the clip of the "tough measures" he imposed on Europe to "protect America" ....without mentioning of course that his "tough measures" were watered down no less than 30 minutes later by him in a TWEET !
God help us all the the most powerful Country on the planet now communicates with the people and the rest of the World and issues major corrections to major policy decisions by "Tweet" !
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God help us all the the most powerful Country on the planet now communicates with the people and the rest of the World and issues major corrections to major policy decisions by "Tweet" !
Quite right. The world is too complex to be run by humans.
It did just fine for millions and millions of years before we arrived.
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Nirish guy
Yes they’ve edited the news conference clip down that was attached in that link from when I watched it last night. To be fair it was 2am when I was watching it and I could of course have misheard him, but I actually thought I specifically heard him mention “anyTHING coming Europe and referring to people AND trade - which of course I found strange myself.
So one of two things, they’ve corrected and edited out a “misspoken phrase” by him or I’ve misheard or misunderstood his news conference when tired, obviously more likely the latter ( although actually I’m still not so sure about that ...) anyway, sorry for any confusion caused re that either way as you’re right, the written statement to follow his news conference doesn’t mention trade.
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NO ! I wasn't dreaming - I've just watched his original news conference again ( I'll try and post a link below) and he said very clearly - "These prohibitions will not only apply to the tremendous amount of trade and cargo but various other things as we get approval, anything coming from Europe to the united States is what we are discussing" THAT to me is fairly clear and unambiguous in intent - I wonder HAVE they rolled back on that then this morning on realising that it's both unnecessary and going to cause even more problems for everyone that any travel ban might !
Here's his words in his news conference ......
http://news.sky.com/story/coronaviru...-days-11955860
AHHHH EDIT No 2
So, I was right, he DID say it -- and then he TWEETED later to correct / alter his verbal statement and confirmed that's not what he meant and dropped it !!
My God, that's that sort of really stupid ( and costly) admin mistake you expect the likes of the Thai Government, not the USA for gods sake ! Someone's head should certainly roll for that major gaff !
For once you can't even really blame Trump himself as of course he just ( barely) reads what he's given by his press people I imagine, UNLESS it WAS him who insisted that was in there and someone afterwards THEN pointed out just how crazy that would be to him AFTER his news conference aired - unfortunately nothing from Trump surprises anymore !
Here's the BBC news article comment re this....
"Mr Trump initally said the travel suspension would also "apply to the tremendous amount of trade and cargo" coming from Europe into the US. He later tweeted to say that trade would "in no way be affected".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51846923
I never doubted you for a moment!
I only read your link not any other news source. But if he banned TRADE from Europe...which as you correctly pointed out he DID say initially only to retract later...all hell would break loose.
I was not trying to be a smart ass, but to me Trump banning European trade would be like Corona, GFC, SARS, and a lot more ,all coming at once.
"U.S. goods and services trade with the EU totaled nearly $1.3 trillion in 2018. Exports totaled $575 billion; Imports totaled $684 billion. The U.S. goods and services trade deficit with the EU was $109 billion in 2018."
https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/e...european-union
Opps 30 days only!!! ah to hell with it. LOL
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I was not trying to be a smart ass, .
The thought hadn't even crossed my mind as not your M.O., I just assumed and took it as the genuine ( important) query that it was. Scary the way he then rolled back on by tweet giving the impression it was new thing he was saying and not in fact correcting his major blunder, where he perhaps thought he was back on the campaign trail and got carried away awith himself and went totally off script -until instructed later to correct his screw up - god forbid he just admits he made a mistake and needs to clarify and correct something I said earlier etc - god FORBID!
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Nirish guy
The thought hadn't even crossed my mind as not your M.O., I just assumed and took it as the genuine ( important) query that it was. Scary the way he then rolled back on by tweet giving the impression it was new thing he was saying and not in fact correcting his major blunder, where he perhaps thought he was back on the campaign trail and got carried away awith himself and went totally off script -until instructed later to correct his screw up - god forbid he just admits he made a mistake and needs to clarify and correct something I said earlier etc - god FORBID!
I think what happened is, his minders went for a coffee,and Donald accessed the internet unsupervised...the result was the near end of civilisation !
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Again, not all Europe-- only Schengen countries.
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Today, I highlight three reports from the Bangkok Post and one report from BBC News:
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'Don't panic' says US woman who recovered from coronavirus
published : 13 Mar 2020 at 01:45
writer: AFP
SEATTLE - An American woman who has recovered from the novel coronavirus has a simple message for people who are worried: Don't panic -- but do think about high-risk individuals and stay home if you feel ill.
Elizabeth Schneider lives in Seattle, the biggest city of Washington state, which has the most deaths in the United States from the disease sweeping the globe.
The 37-year-old, who has a PhD in bioengineering, said she was sharing her story "to give people a little bit of hope" through her own relatively mild experience with the infection, which she treated herself from home . . .
For the full report see: https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/18...virus#cxrecs_s
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Disney closes California theme park, delays 'Mulan' over virus
published : 13 Mar 2020 at 07:45
writer: AFP
LOS ANGELES: Disney will close its giant California theme park and pull the releases of major blockbusters including "Mulan," it announced Thursday, as coronavirus fears shuttered a slew of concerts, festivals and attractions across the US.
Disneyland is the world's second-most visited theme park, drawing tens of thousands of visitors each day. The attraction in Anaheim will remain shut at least until the end of March . . .
For the full report see: https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/18...lan-over-virus
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Thai stocks slide most in 11 years
AoT shares lead losses, plunging 12%
published : 12 Mar 2020 at 18:52
writer: Bangkok Post and Bloomberg
Thai stocks posted their steepest slide since 2006, extending losses as trading resumed following a halt triggered by a circuit breaker when losses reached 10% . . .
For the full report see: https://www.bangkokpost.com/business...st-in-11-years
And from BBC News . . .
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Coronavirus: Countries enforce mass closures to stem spread
13 March 2020
Schools have been closed, sports events cancelled and cultural institutions shut around the world as countries try to stem the coronavirus outbreak.
In the US, all major sport has been suspended and Broadway performances are off for a month.
Meanwhile, France is one of the latest European countries to close all schools, universities and nurseries.
President Emmanuel Macron described the outbreak as France's most serious health crisis for a century.
More than 125,000 people have been diagnosed with Covid-19 in 118 countries around the world, according to the World Health Organization. The total number of deaths is more than 4,600 . . .
For the full report see: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-51862347
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Great report of Reuters why South Korea winning fight with virus and why Italy don't.
Long read! https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN20Z27P
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From that Article,,,,,,"Center for Global Development in Washington, said extensive testing can give countries a better picture of the extent of an outbreak. When testing in a country is limited, he said, the authorities have to take bolder actions to limit movement of people."
So, thats the USA in the shit then ! Hardly any testing, almost no idea of the REAL number of cases in the US so based on the above they'd better start limiting movement real soon or Trump will have to start explaining to the American people why he screwed up very shortly perhaps. Mind you maybe THAT"S why he carried out his European ban so he can so what decisive action he ( didn't actually ) take when people come asking WTF and why the US cases are rocketing !
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Today, I highlight two reports from the Bangkok Post, two reports from BBC News and as the number of people infected in Britain rose by 200 in 24 hours to 798, one report from The Times:
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Doctors issue Stage-3 warning
Nation 'not equipped' for full-on epidemic
published : 14 Mar 2020 at 06:20
newspaper section: News
writer: Post Reporters
An association of chest physicians is calling on the government to prepare for Covid-19 to become a "Stage 3", full-blown epidemic in Thailand while slamming the authorities' slow response to the spread of the disease.
On its Facebook page, the Thoracic Society of Thailand issued an emotionally charged statement warning that the country might not be equipped to deal with a drastic escalation in the number of cases . . .
For the full report see: https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand...tage-3-warning
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Tourism Ministry hopes for post-virus tourist bounce
36.9m expected if outbreak ends soon
published : 14 Mar 2020 at 08:10
newspaper section: News
writer: Penchan Charoensuthipan and Apinya Wipatayotin
The Tourism and Sports Ministry is expecting 36.9 million foreign tourists to visit Thailand this year if the Covid-19 outbreak grinds to a halt by next month.
However, if the spread of the new coronavirus continues, it will be a "big issue" and deepen fears not only in terms of public health but also of the tremendous loss of tourism revenue, Tourism and Sports Minister Phiphat Ratchakitprakarn said yesterday as he prayed for the end of the current global pandemic as declared by the World Health Organisation.
The economy depends on tourism which contributes about 20% of GDP . . .
For the full report see: https://www.bangkokpost.com/business...tourist-bounce
And from BBC News:
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Coronavirus: Europe now epicentre of the pandemic, says WHO
14 March 2020
Europe is now the "epicentre" of the global coronavirus pandemic, the head of the World Health Organization says.
Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus urged countries to use aggressive measures, community mobilisation and social distancing to save lives.
"Do not just let this fire burn," he said.
His comments came as several European countries reported steep rises in infections and deaths. Italy has recorded its highest daily toll yet.
There were 250 deaths recorded over the past 24 hours, taking the total to 1,266, with 17,660 infections overall.
Spain, the worst-affected European country after Italy, reported a 50% jump in fatalities to 120 on Friday. Infections increased to 4,231 . . .
For the full report see: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51876784
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Trump declares national emergency over coronavirus
14 March 2020
US President Donald Trump has declared a national emergency to help handle the growing outbreak of coronavirus.
The declaration - "two very big words", according to Mr Trump - allows the federal government to tap up to $50bn (£40bn) in emergency relief funds.
The move loosens regulations on the provision of healthcare and could speed up testing - the slow pace of which has been criticised widely.
There are 1,701 confirmed cases of Covid-19 in the US, and 40 deaths.
Several US states have taken measures to stem the infections rate, including banning large gatherings, sporting events and closing schools . . .
For the full report see: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51882381
And from The Times . . .
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Coronavirus emergency laws: Police get powers to detain victims
Large gatherings to be banned from next weekend
Steven Swinford, Deputy Political Editor | Chris Smyth, Whitehall Editor
Saturday March 14 2020, 12.01am GMT, The Times
Police will be able to detain infected people and schools could be forced to stay open under a package of powers being announced next week to tackle the coronavirus pandemic.
Emergency laws to help to limit the spread of the virus will be introduced after the number of people infected in Britain rose by 200 in 24 hours to 798. The measures, seen by The Times, will also let councils lower standards in care homes to deal with staff shortages.
The legislation, which ministers intend to push through parliament in two weeks, will equip the government to deal with the disease. Ministers believe that the virus will infect the majority of the population, and the laws will stay in place for two years . . .
For the full report see: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/
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A farang aquintance mentioned how he thought some people were very irresponsable in regards to the transmission of Covid_19 after he had read the article below from the Bangkok Post. The previous night i saw the same farang sharing a shot glass with Thai bar boys and other farangs when playing the Thai drinking games at a Jomtiem Complex bar. He said the alcohol will kill the virus. Everyone is talking about the virus but there does not seem to be much in the way of preventative measures in place to stop the spread of the virus in Pattaya and the bars.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand...onavirus-cases
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A farang aquintance mentioned how he thought some people were very irresponsable in regards to the transmission of Covid_19 after he had read the article below from the Bangkok Post. The previous night i saw the same farang sharing a shot glass with Thai bar boys and other farangs when playing the Thai drinking games at a Jomtiem Complex bar. He said the alcohol will kill the virus. Everyone is talking about the virus but there does not seem to be much in the way of preventative measures in place to stop the spread of the virus in Pattaya and the bars.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand...onavirus-cases
The problem is some people have the virus but do not have obvious ( or any ) symptoms, unless people self isolate infected or not, I don't see how it can be stopped. Yes wash your hands,stay your distance from people, wear a mask, but personally I think these measures will not prevent infection.Some countries response to the virus is near acceptance of huge infections. Unless there is a very disciplined response similar to China or Korea it seems huge infections rates are inevitable.
Regarding your friend,if he is over sixty he is in the increased mortality range upon infection, if he has underlying health issues his mortality range increases and so on.
I do not mean to be dismissive of his behaviour, it's I just don't know what he can do other than be a hermit. if you share a baht bus, you could probably pick the virus up from the handrails! The potential infection points are everywhere.
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Apparently, wearing a mask helps the wearer avoid passing on the virus but not the wearer from being infected.