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Here's what Putin is basically doing right now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
The hypothetical scenario you describe above is irrelevant because Ukraine is not even being considered for NATO membership. And if the day were to ever come where they were, NATO doesn't automatically support military conflicts involving NATO members, unless the member state is being invaded or under threat of attack by a hostile nation.
Fighting for land rights isn't part of NATO's charter.
Just for clarity I'm sure you realised that that was me directly quoting Putins comments during an interview, not my own thoughts. I actually think it was him trying to muddy the water even more than he already is by as you say implying a) Ukraine may be joining Nato and this ultimately Nato would then have to join some backwards stamped war to reclaim Crimea, as even if Ukraine were allowed to join that I doubt would be the case - which Putin well knows too of course. But hey never let the facts get in the way of a good / bad bit of PR and propaganda eh.
Sorry, I totally misread that.
Putin says a lot of things, but one thing I believe is the truth is his deep concern about NATO's presense and expansion across Europe. Hell, that screws up all his Empire building plans, not to mention his legacy which has to be center in his mind.
If this were a game of chess I think it's fair to say that he's been placed in a stale-mate position. Maybe in a few days when all those fucking tanks and missiles get dragged out of there the people of Ukraine can finally get a good nights sleep, and their kids can go to school without the trama of having to hide in a bomb shelter. That's all I really all I care about.
Putin is just one of many thousands of old white men grasping onto the straws, trying their best to hold onto power.
Over the coming 5 - 10 years all these old white fucks will be out of power and / or dead, and the rest of the modern world can continue progressing along without their bullshit.
I think we’re oversimplifying by ignoring the religious aspect of the conflict. The Orthodox have a different way of looking at these things. The Moscow Patriarchate regards itself as superior to Kiev although Orthodoxy came to Russia along that route
Yes, I read the Washington Post too, and agree the cat is an apt description of what is happening in the Ukraine. Whether the cat lives or not is actually less important to me then finding out if this this was Putin's end plan or we pushed him into this position. You play chess you tell me.
I admire your courage in assuming that you or I can find out such a thing. I’d use the phrase “a nod is as good as a wink to a blind man”, especially as Matt and his love of YouTube has been a major contributor to this thread - and the unparalleled insights of posters like Amazing Dodgems too
One thing you won’t see in the Washington Post, a newspaper incidentally I never read, is the attribution for all the photos they publish of Russian tanks driving through snowy landscapes. There is, I understand a unit of Russian government propaganda happy to feed such photos to a gullible Western media. Bluff, counter-bluff, propaganda, disinformation and misinformation - knock your socks off attempting to figure it out
cdnmatt....no need to be racist...its not only white old men ...its all men...dont think the waxworks that pass for chinese leadership are "white"...or maduro in venezuela...or myanmar....or r u one of those nutty tree hugging sandal wearing vegan fat free dairy free frothing at the mouth woke always offended lefties that subscribe to the notion that all natives were living in total peace and harmony with one another and nature until the evil white colonisers arrived and discovered them...shaka zulu anyone...
True enough. Genghis Khan wasn't exactly a saint, now was he? And President Xi Jingping of China can go fuck himself. Trudeau can just piss off and go do a yoga pose while cuddling some baby panda bears.
Still stick with what I said though. A lot of the old power is going away in the coming years... thake this whole Ukraine bullshit. This is Putin not wanting to die without reclaiming Mother Russia during his life. He failed, it's not going to happen, the world will continue to move on.
The similarities with Hitler and the Sudetenland, Peter the Great, Stalin and the Tartars, Genghis Khan are all striking. I’m not saying that Putin is Hitler, but it’s easy to get carried away with these comparisons. The Slavs are at their most dangerous when national borders are in flux. As Sir Les Patterson was wont to ask, “Are you with me?”
I'll stick with what I said. I think we're entering a new phase of humanity, and what we're seeing is the old way on its way out. Same type of thing as we don't do Kings, feudal lords and fiefdoms anymore, now do we? I would imagine you can expect some good sized changes in the future as the old power fucks off to the grave.
On a side note, this modern day shit of everyone comparing everything to the holocaust needs to stop. There's even been truckers in Canada's recent protests saying, "Canada is like Nazi Germany, and we're the Jews". For fuck sakes, stop it. I've walked through the Auschwitz camps in Krakow before (yes, when I could see), I've seen the barracks, crematoriums, horse stables, railroad tracks, salt mines, et al. Comparing your government asking you to get a vaccine to that is just beyond disrespectful to those who actually suffered during the holocaust.
...im still waiting for your grovelling apology...
Now the Ruskies are shelling kindergartens in Ukraine. Figures...
1. It is nationalism to use "Russkies" and this is official warning. Do it one more time and I will kick you out for week.
2. Why you don't tell story about speech of member of EP Tatjana Zhdanok from Latvia on Euro parliament plenary session 2 days ago where she demonstrated photos of kids from East Ukraine killed by Ukrainian drone? Oh, let me guess: there were no such news in Western mass media, right? By the way: Zhdanok was abrupted, her microphone switched off, and she was convoyed from podium. Democracy.
Ok, sorry.... no more of that word. If it helps any, you can call me a Canuck if you'd like. I don't mind.
By the way: war is necessary for Ukrainian government. They are under pressure from EU leaders to fulfill Minsk protocol. Their rating of approval is below 20% . If they will implement Minsk protocol, it will be their end for sure. Right and ultra-right opposition has now 26%.
So now they are trying to provoke rebels from East as more as they can: from 2 per day shoots at past, intensity of fire grew now to about 600-800 per day.
It isn't so extensive, as it was in 2014. Length of front line is 320 km, so it is 2 shots per 24 hours per 1 km of the front line now.
It’s simplistic to think in terms of East vs West in today’s global, multipolar world. Sevastapol is great strategic importance to Putin, especially given the ongoing situation in Syria
So now it's Ukraine's fault they're being invaded? Got it.
I'll stick with what I said. This is nothing more than the desires of an old billionaire who knows he'll die in the near future, and he wants to live out his dream of reclaiming Mother Russia to its glory days.
But hey, at least Putin is an actual billionaire, unlike Trump who's broke and just lies about it.
Guys, remember: Putin can wait as long as he wants, he has at least +1 6 y. "season" for drama in the future, but Ukrainian govt and president Zelensky can't - elections are in next year.
Come on, do it right:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xxr46oLBFQ
I've been screeched in before. The pub didn't have any actual fish those, so it was just some breaded filets we kissed, then some tequila shots, followed by my husband (bf at the time) running past me to the bathroom to throw up. Good times.
Please note, that's not actually representative of Canada. That's just a place out in the Atlantic we call "the rock". Canada is really fucken big, we have lots of different people and cultures.
2000 12 candidates, 53% https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_R...ntial_election
2004 6 candidates, 71% (after bank crisis in RF) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_R...ntial_election
2008 4 candidates, won Medvedev https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_R...ntial_election
2012 5 candidates, 64% https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_R...ntial_election
2018 8 candidates, 76% (after Crimea) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_R...ntial_election (in Crimea Putin got 90,2%)
Each elections has been observed by delegation from OSCE. You can read reports about how it was here at time of elections - https://www.osce.org/odihr/elections/russia they do it at time of each elections: parliamental and presidential year by year
The leader of not recognized Donetsk republic Pushilin just spoke by local TV and declared evacuation of women, children and elders to Russia. He explained it by growing concentration of Ukrainian military parts along the front line and by intelligence reports what president Zelensky will give command for military operation at next 48 hours.
Population of Donetsk republic is 2.2 mln
P.S. Kremlin's spokesman Peskov just told, what he has no idea what Pushilin does and why he declared evacuation.
Following to Pushilin, leader of not recognized Lugansk republic Pasechnik, just also announced evacuation to Russia. Reason is the same - growing concentration of Ukrainian heavy technic and military parts along the front line.
P.S. Putin just spoke and called Zelensky for peace talk with leaders of separatists.