Well said, Oliver2. I couldn't agree more!
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Why do so many guys like to fxxk a straight boy? To me it seems they enjoy it too much, almost like guys who like to rape their victims. :devilsh:
You're in a right mood this evening Francois. I suggest a glass of Courvoisier, a Gauloise Blonde and a slice of tarte tatin to restore Gallic equilibrium.
Yes Oliver2, that is the ideal where its a win win situation. It's refreshing to read your post.
Some "punters" go into it as if they're going into battle, and the guy is out to cheat him of his life savings ,where every advantage must be taken. The truth is...especially for the non-thai guys...they desperately need the money,and in some cases their families are depending on the money he earns.
I too have fallen for guys, and yes it has cost me quite a bit of money,at the time i could well afford it. But I was the one with the "power" in the deal,not him. I could have stopped it anytime I wanted, but I did not, they took full advantage of this.Thats life,it happens! I still cherish those experiences,rather than saved my money and kept it business only. I still keep in contact with a guy I met in Bali nearly 20 years ago, I bought him a house, he's now married with 3 kids. This changed his life for the better and he's doing ok ,well he's getting by.
how rude...how dare u stand on that soap box and preach to me what constitutes good sex....u pay for affection..good for you...I'm after something slightly different. As for the allure of the straight guy, its nothing new, thee is a whole genre of porn based on that so obviously its rather mainstream...I like it because then he's a true whore....doing it just for the cash
I understand there are sock puppet accounts, and in some cases they are used to 'stimulate' or 'provoke' a discussion, especially to try and keep the numbers up on a forum. I get it. I really do, and most of the time they are harmless.But when one is used to promote taking unfair advantage of guys that already have a hard life I take issue with it. There are many readers of this forum that might take the sock puppets posts seriously....that is dangerous!
...oh go cry me a river...a hard life...really?!
latin. Its obvious you're itching to start writing the sort of stuff you were posting before. Remember, the stuff where your friend said how disgusting he found you. So maybe calm it down for a while.
You were in Pattaya in September and posted nothing so perhaps leave those who are there be.
I had met him when he was about 19, I visited Bali regularly in those days...I lived in Perth WA...we were "together" for about 5 years. He then got married and was living in his parents house with his new born daughter and his wife. He was from a small village in East Java ( Jawah Timur ) I had visited it a few times before he was married. Anyway all was not good in his parents house as his wife and his mother were not getting on,he was really stressed out. I bought him a house,I think it cost me about $A10,000, for everything. It was an old house ,so I paid for the renovation and furniture . I also bought him a motor bike.
To this day, I do not believe he was 100 % straight,but yes he is now happily married. He did allow me to fxxk him and it was not an unpleasant experience for him believe me! We often went away to different islands and I would hire a bungalow for privacy,Lombok,The Gilli Islands, we went to Yogyakarta,and once to Jakarta. I even bought the Linguaphone cassettes and learned Bahasa Indonesia.Its not a difficult language and I was highly motivated at the time!
I was deeply in love with him, head over heels. I still keep in contact with him, if I won the lottery I would make sure he and his young family would be cared for for the rest of their lives,I still feel that strongly about him. He sends me photos sometimes, boy has he changed LOL....but so have I. I should mention, he was working as a waiter in a small restaurant when i met him, he knew nothing about gay life or the gay scene in Kuta, and I kept it that way.
I consider myself the richer for having shared a piece of his life....it's not always about the money.
Sadly most of the boys we love from SE true love can not be fulfilled because Geographic distance and cultural differences . Appreciate you share this interesting experience with us.
Zebedee did you ever think of bringing him to live with you in Australia?
No Ninodf1, that would never have worked for either of us. At the time I was working in remote areas of WA on rosters depending on the contract e.g 3 weeks on and 1 week off or 3 weeks on 2 weeks off and variations, hence my regular visits to Bali. Also it was a pretty rough and ready work environment ,certainly an out gay guy wouldn't last too long,this was about 20 years ago! So I had to be careful. He was from a small village,in fact his job as a waiter when I met him was his first job since leaving school,Bali to him was like Bangkok to a guy from Udon Thani. He only went to Bali to "make his fortune" , it took a lot of persuasion from me to get him to leave that job and travel with me. Obviously I had to compensate him for that,it wasn't much he was paid a pittance anyway. I actually spoiled him financially, not intentionally but I didn't realise at the time what the average wage was in Indonesia , so to him I was giving him a fortune, to me it was very little. My work meant I was saving all my salary...nowhere to spend it while working!
If I worked on a regular job in Perth or another city,my salary would drop sharply, and my living costs would soar,so you get hooked on the money after a while.
In addition I was in my late 30's and he was 19, he had no english, or life experience outside his village, the culture shock of living in Australia ...even had I been able to get him a visa...would have been too much.Apart from all that, I simply did not want him to change, he was so easy going and agreeable as well as being stunning looking, I guess I didn't want anyone to take him from me. He belonged with his own people and family, but it broke my heart when I lost him.
"Culture shock"...yes, that's the nub of the problem. P wanted me to sell-up and live in rural Kamphaeng Phaet. Then his idea was to come here to London. We talked and talked and considered the options, including the financial ones. And we still live thousands of miles apart and sometimes, like today, talking to him on LINE makes me tearful.
However, we were right to continue to live our own, very different lives, him with his extended family and temple, me with my political work and cultural life in London. Not to mention Chelsea Football Club.
When we are in Thailand, we share our lives; here we would be under the same roof- mainly- but our respective interests wouldn't mesh.
I love him as he is and I don't want him to become an anglicised (and rather lonely) Thai; and there's no way that i am willing at my age to adopt a new culture.