I see Palin's Assembly of God church in Wasilla is trying to convert gays to heterosexuals. Another try at conversion therapy. Henry and Wesley should attend. Nothing worse than right wing wacko fags.
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I see Palin's Assembly of God church in Wasilla is trying to convert gays to heterosexuals. Another try at conversion therapy. Henry and Wesley should attend. Nothing worse than right wing wacko fags.
For those desiring to be converted, here is a link to the story
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080906/ap_ ... alp3hh24cA
Ok Wesley, I take exception to your supposed neutrality. Refer to Obama as big eared, a nice childish comment. Obama running against an actual war hero. I think not. Yes, McCain was a prisoner of war hero, not the same as a war hero. Let's face it if he was a good, smart pilot, he would not have been shot down. He graduated near the bottom of his Anapolis class. Something like fourth from the bottom. He was after all a legacy admittance because his father and grandfather were Admirals. Similar to GW Bush's admittance to Yale. McCain had crashed several planes previously because of poor piloting skills. Yes, he stood up to being a prisoner of war and deserves credit for that.Quote:
I know you probably hate Bush but keep in mind, big eared Obama is running against an actual war hero and has little to offer as a record. If you are looking for a socialist state then he is the man for the job. I am liberal but I am not all the way to the left and he is the most liberal senator in the senate who has voted 95 times present rather than have any history at all to see how he would vote on anything. The Troops are already coming home, The surge Brigades are already home and the war is pretty much over whether all are in or out. The Booodiest region of all is now under Iraqi control and Bush himself is bringing the troops home. So, he can't run on that issue any longer.So since that is no longer an issue, why vote for him other than he is Black. The issue now is the economy and Oil and the transition to an energy free future that does not include people that do not like us very well. Other than the basic liberal issues there is really no reason to vote for him. If I have to take the far left to get the center of the road then I prefer to not vote at all. I look at his record and there is no record for me to look at in order to cast a vote for him. I have no idea what he believes in, other than change in which he has yet to define
Wes, continue America's downward spiral, vote McCain
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Originally Posted by rincondog
Thanks Bob, he pushed my button, I guess its another of those what ever posts.
Wes
So, now i fine she was formerly Assemblies of God and no longer belongs to that particular church or denomination. not sure where she goes nowor denomination only that Fox rep[orts this morning she is no longer and for some time been affiliated with this church or the Assemblies SO, Check out your facts before you begin to quote rouge internet postings.
Wes
Any man who could have left and stayed in my eyes is a hero in his own right, yes he like others were wild and craszy in their youth, I had a few of them myslelf. No matter how he got there is not important, it is how and when he came out of the POW camp that is important. he could have left being his father was an Admiral but stayed . That in itself makes him a hero and a much better man than I am. I suppose you have done more. I suppose you deserve the right to vote. If you are not an American then this is no topic for you. If you are then vote you heart as will I.Quote:
Originally Posted by rincondog
Wesley
For god's/buddha's sake, Wes, the thread is about Palin and we're in an internet forum called Sawatdee Gay Thailand. Do we really have to listen to some pompous diatribe from the pulpit? Rather than try to convert posters you don't know (and who are just winding your chain), you'd be better off chiseling your pronouncements in stone and then using the stones to weigh down your pickup in the winter snows. (i.e., lighten up, dude)
Back to the topic of the thread. Being the governor of a state of 600,000 for 19 months and being the mayor of a rather dinky town do count for something - but not much on the national scene. When asked about her views on Iraq, she responded that she hadn't been following much about that. It seems to me that whoever is selected as vice president ought to be somewhat qualified to be president and I can't see Palin as anywhere near qualified for that. I don't blame her for her predicament, I blame the bad judgment of McCain (in spite of that fact I think he's an honorable guy).
My couple previous comments about Palin (which were negative) stands for her as a person...not because she is a woman or a Republican. BUT, many of us "Independents" are sick of what the Republican party has done to the United States the last eight years. It's reputation around the world (and the economy) has gone down the drain ;thus, we DO want a different party in. I think most of the world would agree.
Though Americans usually do not pay much attention to the vice-presidency candidate, who runs for THIS republican vice-presidency ticket does make a difference since McCain's golden age means that Palin may have to fulfill his position if he becomes sick or passes away. I don't care if she was on the Democratic ticket or on the Mother's Teressa ticket, would you really want her to be in one of the most powerful positions in the world with her prejudices and narrow mindedness?
I donot agree wth the article, aboaut the Assemblies of God thing, I know them. They have nothign to do with Gays on any level historically and theologically. The odds they would give a shit that we are going to hell seems some what unlike that particular group. However, I guess there are a few nut cakes around any denomination. I would not bet she has gotten where she has with the Assemblies of God tied arond her neck or being willing to accept all of the far right poistions. for most it, her stand on abortion, not gay rights and for that I would agree that it gives her a certain pro-life boost to the Republican party. I am sure the Repubilcans really care less about Gays as long as there is marraige defined as between a man and a woman. I could not say the Assemblies would aaccpet either abortion or gays but there are pletnty of it that goes on in the church on both fronts.
I am not taking up for her but the article that was suggested I am part the Assemblies was a slap in the face, and the Assemblies would feel the same way about me. I long ago broke any serious ties with the church. If they don't help the kids find if they do fine. As I said befoer if Satan writes me a check to help the kids I will take that too. When anyone gets personal about religion on here in my opinion they have crossed over the line. Any persn including Palin should be allowedd to believe what they believe. I persoanlly don't give a shit. But if it makes a difference to you then vote your cinscince. I persoanlly think McCain is a Maverick, he stood up to Bush and any one else who was wrong. I just don't feel that hanging him for 8 Years of a failed bush presidency is fair to the ticket. He is no religious freak. He is old yes, but his Mom is in her 90's. I would say he likely will out live most of us.
Wesley
Tell us all about it, expert pilot.Quote:
Let's face it if he was a good, smart pilot, he would not have been shot down.
Frankly, the reason this thread has exploded with comments is because Sarah Palin has totally changed the character of this election. Of course, those who are knee-jerk Democrats have nothing but nasty things to say about her -- but that can be discounted in advance, because they would have been nasty about Lieberman (TURNCOAT! HYPOCRITE) and they will say nothing but nasty things about the Republican ticket.
I would like to say once again that I am not a member of any party. I would like to be a Libertarian, but can't accept their little statement about all use of force being everywhere wrong.
So I guess I am challenging myself to say something nice about Obama. This is very difficult, because my perceptions of him have worsened over the last few weeks. Right now he strikes me as a typical Chicago machine politician, who did not actually expect to win the nomination, and who has been running on a wing and a prayer ever since. Much worse than that -- some Internet gangsters have been apparently making up fibs about Sarah Palin's religious affiliations, but Obama's religious affiliations are a matter of public record. And (amazingly) nobody seems to CARE about his 20-year association with Jeremiah Wright, or his equally long association with Bill Ayers -- which Obama has LIED about ("He's just a guy who lives in the same neighborhood.")
And it took Sarah Palin to state the obvious about Obama and the "surge!" Obama admits that the surge has worked beyond "any of our dreams," and Palin calls him on it! The fact is, Obama was wrong -- dead wrong -- about the surge, and now he wants to rhetorically imply that "everyone" was similarly mistaken. Not John McCain, who put his career on the line defending it against the likes of Obama. Obama's position on the surge is now Theater of the Absurd. "I was mistaken, but I was right," or something like that.
Why doesn't anybody ask this man the hard questions -- aside from Sarah Palin?
Anyway, the world will little note nor long remember what we say here....but at least everyone who cared to has come out and shown their party colours (the "u" is for our British friends :-) )
Now I have to dive down the memory hole and find the name of that excellent old blog, since given up, which made a career out of exposing the follies of the Guardian.
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Like you, Henry, I'm not a member of any party (either because I don't agree with their positions or on the general Groucho Marx theory of "I wouldn't belong to any organization that would have me as a member!").
Okay, given I'm fairly independent and not arguing with you (I could) about some of your other statements, how about a simple statement as to your beliefs as to whether Sarah Palin is or isn't qualified (adequately experienced) to be president.
I ask you this because it's difficult for me to believe anybody can make a rational argument that she is indeed qualified in that regard.