Re: FANTASTIC new regional Chinese restaurant in Pattaya!
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Originally Posted by Narakmak
Chips and gravy isn't Chinese food. Give me a break!
Indeed it is ! They sell it in just about every Chinese restaurant I go to so it MUST be as I know for a fact that they have chips in China ( as I've seen Mcdonalds there) and I'm guessing they must also have gravy so that's "obviously" where the dish came from.
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Originally Posted by Narakmak
I meant sophisticated as in foodie. Not in high society fine dining. Not the same thing.
Yes, so did I, I'm a very sophisticated foodie and enjoy food in lots of different high street restaurants, I even try their specials sometimes just to widen my food experience - except with pasta or anything that has rice or pork in it as I find most people don't like that and neither do I generally, especially if they only do that microwave rice stuff, I dont know about you but I find that disgusting and it would put me off going back to a place for a few weeks :-(
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Originally Posted by Narakmak
Its kind of sickening how cynical and negative some people are considering they haven't even tried the place in question.
Well I know you don't mean me there as rather than be negative I've made several suggestions as to how they could increase their trade but you seem intent on not even passing on my suggestions to them as if they are somehow unworthy of consideration, whereas with my sophisticated palette they would perhaps be a big hit ! And I note you didn't even accept my invitation to sample some food elsewhere so that you really CAN compare your place against mine as I concede it could be close run thing !! but until then I guess you can't really complain about people not trying other places I guess :-( but hey the invitation still stands as I'm sure you'd have a good night out and enjoy the early bird menu they have in most of the places I eat - oh actually that's actually another great idea for your friends, have they tried an early bird menu out yet ? perhaps something light to catch people on their way home from work like egg fried rice perhaps ?
Re: FANTASTIC new regional Chinese restaurant in Pattaya!
Re: FANTASTIC new regional Chinese restaurant in Pattaya!
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Originally Posted by Narakmak
Troll. :bounce:
Oh how lovely, I spend time trying to help your friends by giving several valid suggestions as to how they could improve their trade, you insult me, belittle me and generally come of as pompous and high handed as to anything other than anyone else's opinion and you think I'm trolling you.......how rude........well all I can say is if you are an example of the type of customer that eats in your friends restaurant I'm not sure I should lower my standards to eat there as I can go to many other places to be insulted instead :-( I wish your friends well in their venture but feel after your comments where you so mortally offended me that I really should just take my business elsewhere :-( And that's after me inviting you out for dinner and everything :-( some people eh :-(((
Re: FANTASTIC new regional Chinese restaurant in Pattaya!
Good. Please don't go there. They aren't looking for yobs suggesting they serve chips and gravy, trust me.
Be clear. This isn't a snobbish place in the slightest. But the chefs do care about their food, and if you don't like it, yes, go elsewhere by all means.
People in Pattaya who care about Chinese food, yes Chinese food, nothing else, are already finding Pao. It isn't for everyone, that is clear. Are there enough residents and tourists in town to keep it going? Time will tell. It's not just about staying in business. McDonalds is in business. It's about staying in business and serving the special food they serve, available nowhere else in town.
Re: FANTASTIC new regional Chinese restaurant in Pattaya!
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Originally Posted by Narakmak
Good. Please don't go there. They aren't looking for yobs suggesting they serve chips and gravy, trust me.
Be clear. This isn't a snobbish place in the slightest. But the chefs do care about their food, and if you don't like it, yes, go elsewhere by all means.
WOW, so you come on to promote your place and now you're telling me they don't want the likes of me ( hell that's the second restaurant that's happened to me at in two months in Thailand now :-( Well I don't know, I gave you good ideas, many many well used and established tips that many other restaurants us and you just don't seem interested and yet your place is empty, I just don't get it :-( Perhaps if they even just implemented one of two things as I take your point that they want to keep it special, so something like the microwave to speed up service ( but only for doing the rice in etc) or maybe hiring that waiter or two (which wouldn't even affect the quality of food and might just even make their cooking that little bit better as they would have more time to cook ) then that might help even but with this total rejection of just about every sound business idea I propose well then I really don't know what else to say that could help more :-(
Maybe if they even just expanded the menu a bit - and not just to my fine dining choices but even just to other Chinese food as maybe they're going off on a wrong tangent altogether with that whole dumpling thing, so maybe more the fried pancake duck end of things as I see from my local chinese that that's very popular ???
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You don't know Pattaya, do you? Leng Kee, the famous Thai Chinese restaurant that's been here for decades and is famous for their duck is just down the street from Pao!
The dumpling thing, huh? You say you are a foodie and you don't get the Chinese dumpling thing. I don't believe you're a foodie. Did you even get that the name of the place, PAO, is related to dumplings?
You can get U.K. style fried duck on Soi Lengkee. What he does is not a Chinese dish. It is a UK style dish. It won't be on at Pao.
BTW, it isn't my role to say you shouldn't go there. Go ahead and suggest the chips and gravy thing. I guarantee he won't throw anything at you but I also guarantee he won't be serving chips and gravy ... ever.
Re: FANTASTIC new regional Chinese restaurant in Pattaya!
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Originally Posted by Narakmak
You don't know Pattaya, do you?
Obviously not it appears, I really mean to go there some day but Bkk is such fun I find it so hard to drag myself away.
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Leng Kee, the famous Thai Chinese restaurant that's been here for decades and is famous for their duck is just down the street from Pao!
YOU SEE !! That's exactly my point !! They're there, knocking out the whole duck thing and their bunged to the doors it seems, so hopefully you can NOW see that there IS in fact some merit in my many suggestions and not write them off in such a cavalier fashion when they are "obviously" winning ideas.
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You say you are a foodie and you don't get the Chinese dumpling thing. I don't believe you're a foodie.
But i've already told you I am, just because I don't like the same foods as you doesn't make my any less of a foodie surely - does it ? I'll have you know I eat food every single day in fact so you can't get more foodie than that !
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Did you even get that the name of the place, PAO, is related to dumplings?
I have to admit you've got me there, I had no idea, I feel a little foolish now, thanks for passing that info one though, you learn something new every day eh, you must have some idea what you're talking about I guess if you know detailed and technical stuff like that, I'm more a pile it high eat it quick sort of guy I guess so I bow to your superior knowledge there on that one !
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Originally Posted by Narakmak
Go ahead and suggest the chips and gravy thing. I guarantee he won't throw anything at you but I also guarantee he won't be serving chips and gravy ... ever.
That's great news, I just might do that if I ever make it to Pattaya I guess, tell me do they open late as as I'd mentioned earlier I usually like my Chinese on the way home from the bar after a few beers, but if the place is as good as you say I'll happily "sit in" and try something from there - and if they don't do the whole chip and gravy thing that's no problem, as you say there's that other place just down from it and I can maybe get some there to take out and then use them there while I sample some of their food.
Re: FANTASTIC new regional Chinese restaurant in Pattaya!
Leng Kee doesn't do chips and gravy either. I don't think even China Garden does chips and gravy but I wouldn't put it past them. Leng Kee is a Thai Chinese place. There is no crispy fried aromatic duck there either. Just roast duck and duck cooked in Thai curries. Their roast duck is indeed one of the few things on their menu that is more Chinese Chinese than Thai Chinese. Their duck is good. Pao isn't in a position to do roast duck, logistically speaking. I find it bizarre that people think every restaurant needs to do everything. The chicken and rice places all over Thailand that are indeed wonderful. Maybe they should do chips and gravy too ... :violent1:
BTW, I don't completely understand their go away for 10 days every month schtick. I think its funny actually. How can they hire a waiter if the place is closed 10 days every month? Kind of a waste. Not sure whether that will continue into the high season.
They are indeed open late. I think to about midnight. Perhaps not late enough.
Re: FANTASTIC new regional Chinese restaurant in Pattaya!
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Originally Posted by Narakmak
Leng Kee doesn't do chips and gravy either. I don't think even China Garden does chips and gravy but I wouldn't put it past them. Leng Kee is a Thai Chinese place. There is no crispy fried aromatic duck there either.
Wow, you're obviously right then that all of the Chinese's in Pattaya are useless if they don't do gravy chips either ! :-( Maybe there's an opening in the market then and you're guys could be the first, I'm telling you I think they're missing a trick here !
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Originally Posted by Narakmak
The chicken and rice places all over Thailand that are indeed wonderful. Maybe they should do chips and gravy too ... :violent1:
EXACTLY ! See, give the people what they want, NOW you're starting to get it ! EVENTUALLY thank goodness !!
Re: FANTASTIC new regional Chinese restaurant in Pattaya!
Thanks for sharing. You are indeed a troll. I must be insane to respond to you further.