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Originally Posted by allieb
If he is indeed 27 and not 72. What's a 27 year old punter doing in Pattaya he's 30 years too early ?
I first came here on holiday when in my 20's; I have been living here, retired, since my 30's and I am by no means the only one.
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Originally Posted by Beach Bunny
It sounds more like you want a subservient houseboy you can fuck. Ain't nothing wrong with that, but call a spade a spade...
BB, regrettably you are spot on again; had he asked for advice on that, rather than on a "long term relationship" he would probably have got it, instead of some of the laughable generalisations such as "Thais feel bad if someone helps them out too much..."!!
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lol... that craigslist link paints a pretty bleak picture.
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The "cute, sweet Thai boy who takes great care" of you bit does sound good. If it makes you happy to be around him then you've found someone special. I hope it works out.
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Originally Posted by a447
Mmmmm...a troll, eh francois> Je crois que tu as raison! Je me souviens de quelqu'un qui s'appelle
lollylowlife
Mais oui; the more cdnmatt squeezes their teats the more the forum members produce in response.
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Originally Posted by Gone Fishing
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Originally Posted by allieb
If he is indeed 27 and not 72. What's a 27 year old punter doing in Pattaya he's 30 years too early ?
I first came here on holiday when in my 20's; I have been living here, retired, since my 30's and I am by no means the only one.
Before we go any futher on this one, would you like to tell us how long you have lived in Thailand, or to the point how old are you now? You have said in previous posts that you are in a non commercial mutual love relationship. Were you a punter when you first arrived at the young age of 20 something? The original poster is clearly a punter who's picked up a whore. He says he's 27, there must be something wrong with him if he's paying already.
I would also be interested to know how you got retirement status in your 30's.
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I think you people should leave this poor man alone. It's obvious he has the face of Elephant Boy and needs to find and pay for sex in a foreign country where they do not judge so much by looks. As for him retiring when he's 30, why would anyone doubt him? I'm sure he also flies first class wherever he goes, with his business paying for it. People...just enjoy his posts.
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Originally Posted by allieb
would you like to tell us how long you have lived in Thailand, or to the point how old are you now? ....Were you a punter when you first arrived at the young age of 20 something?.....I would also be interested to know how you got retirement status in your 30's.
1. 16 years.
2. 52.
3. No, I was on holiday.
4. I stopped working.
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Originally Posted by diec
I think you people should leave this poor man alone. It's obvious he has the face of Elephant Boy and needs to find and pay for sex in a foreign country where they do not judge so much by looks. As for him retiring when he's 30, why would anyone doubt him? I'm sure he also flies first class wherever he goes, with his business paying for it. People...just enjoy his posts.
No idea if you are talking about me or not, but since cdnmatt has not retired and is only 27 you can't be talking about him, so just in case:
As I have barely lived in the UK (my home country) since I was 20 Thailand is no more "foreign" to me than anywhere else. I have only once flown first class, when I was upgraded (from economy) and I have never owned, run or worked for a "business".
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Originally Posted by Gone Fishing
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Originally Posted by allieb
would you like to tell us how long you have lived in Thailand, or to the point how old are you now? ....Were you a punter when you first arrived at the young age of 20 something?.....I would also be interested to know how you got retirement status in your 30's.
1. 16 years.
2. 52.
3. No, I was on holiday.
4. I stopped working.
What I would like to know is how you managed to stay for 14 years until were able to apply for the retirement visa (50). I'm just curious.
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Interesting conundrum and one which all regular visitors to Thailand, both gay and straight battle with. I have mostly straight friends in Pattaya who have the same problem with the bar girls they are in long term relationships with. All are visiting up to 3 times a year and providing funds on a monthly basis to maintain their heart throbs in the manner to which they have become accustomed. I myself had a relationship with a bar boy for 5 years; it ended last November. He is now 33. I loved him and probably still do if the truth be known. The age gap is certainly a problem, but we must not shrink from the unbridled truth that there would be no relationship if it did not exist. I do not want to shag a 60 year old, I couldn't shag a 60 year old. Perhaps a shallow sentiment, but the depth of my morality is ever diminished with the ebb of time. I too sent a monthly stipend to my lover. This was a sum arrived at by a negotiated agreement and was the 'minimum' sum that he could comfortably exist on. I asked a friend of mine who is a bar owner in Pattaya how much he paid his girls. His is an ordinary beer bar and he has about 15 girls working. He said they get paid between 4000 & 5000 Baht per month, dependent on their usefulness? He then went on to elaborate that in the main the girls live on their monthly wage by sharing accommodation with 2 or 3 other girls. He said any additional funds they gain from a take-off is sent home to maintain the family back on the farm. I established that this was the case with my lover. He worked in a go-go where he was paid only by the number of drinks that were bought for him and a share of the tips plus the money from take-offs. Part of the agreement was that he would abandon his work in the boy bar and thereafter he worked as a waiter in a ladies go-go. He earned about 4500 Baht wage plus as far as I could judge 150 Baht on average per night in tips. I sent him 15000 + 9000 from his work seemed to keep him happy.
I think you should try and analyse his monetary needs and if you are there for any length of time - what he is doing with the money you are giving him? With the sort of money you are paying he must have a large entourage or he is gambling? I bet he is not saving for a rainy day. The doubt will be the undoing if you are not careful. The most important thing is enjoy each other whilst you are together - it can be beautiful.
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Interesting conundrum and one which all regular visitors to Thailand, both gay and straight battle with. He is now 33. I loved him and probably still do if the truth be known. The age gap is certainly a problem, but we must not shrink from the unbridled truth that there would be no relationship if it did not exist. I do not want to shag a 60 year old, I couldn't shag a 60 year old.
longdorm, I think I understand what you said, but need a little clairification. I assume when you ended your relationship with the bf at age 33 yo, you also ended his monthly allowance? If so, did he get a parachute? Did he have another means of supporting himself? It is something, some, but not all have to face who have a long term relationship. For me, I will be dead before the bf is "too old" for me. But I do wonder what does happen when their sponsor is dead or gone?