That makes those propaganda videos even more hilarious.
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Up until recently, if a Russian citizen referred to what's going on in Ukraine publicly as a "War" he could be imprisoned. That my friend has nothing to do with "censorship" - that's just a violation of a persons freedom of speech. Now, if this level of freedom isn't provided in Russia just say it. But attempting to minimize (or rationalize) what's going on by framing this simply as "censorship" is a bit rich.
With the current lack of Freedom of Speech that exists in Russia - it would be impossible for anyone to know the truth about anything that's going on. You, as a Russian citizen are told exactly what they want you to hear - nothing more, nothing, less. I imagine after a lifetime of living in this type of information cage one would only know one "reality" and that's the "reality (virtual reality)" they want you know.
The Russians I know and have befriended over the years that reside in the U.S. can see reality with crystal clarity.
===The Russians I know and have befriended over the years that reside in the U.S. can see reality with crystal clarity.===
Don't forget to tell them, what they are living in barbaric country - the only country in world which twice dropped nuclear bombs on heads of hundred thousands of civilians and after 77 years still didn't said even "we are sorry".
Oh, by the way, speaking about "total isolation": Germany and Poland just placed orders for Russian oil in 2023.
Loyalty to nationalistic regime in Ukraine has higher score than professionalism: Ukrainian clown-president just appointed sexologist Ilaschuk as ambassador to Bulgaria... she has zero diplomatic experience...
"Bulgaria? Where is it? Let's appoint there sexologist, that's enough for them..." (sarcasm)
By "such action" are you referring to the Special Operation Putin waged to rid Ukraine of Nazi's? I'm only asking because this was the rationale /justification that Putin provided to the World when he first launched his attack of Ukraine.
As far as your statement "should Russia avoid such action". For the sake of objectivity - It would probably be better if you asked a Japanese person this question.
Yeah, whatever happened to the Nazis anyway?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...dt-war-ukraine
Maybe the treatment of Jewish communities across the world is a barometer of how sick a society/societies (and governments) have become.
You seem to be under the impression that Russia is as strong, if not stronger than the West, or some such non-sense. Once again, although the West has invested a large amount of resources to this war that Russia initiated for no good reason, the West hasn't actually engaged yet, right?
You may be under the delusion that Russia is as strong if not stronger than the West, but it's just that -- a delusion. Russia can't even handle its own against Ukraine with Western support, so I'm not sure what Russia is trying to accomplish here.
Considering the absolute mockery the Russian military has made of itself on the world stage, it's not exactly far fetched to realize if shit ever hits the fan, Russia would not stand a chance against a NATO based invasion. Hell, there's even reports out there about how during their missile bombardments against the Ukrainian power grid, the Russian military is so inept, the Russian anti-air defense systems are shooting down their own missiles.
I really wish you Russians would pull your head out of your ass, and come back to reality. There's two possible conclusions to this war -- Russia accepts defeat, or Russia goes full bat shit and we all get to experience what nuclear winter feels like.
The current Russian military doctrine is banking on the fact support from the West for Ukraine will wane in the coming months and years, so they'll be able to more easily annex the country. That's it, that's what the Russian military leadership is banking on. I don't know, I'm not a military general or anything, but that sounds like a horrible militarry strategy to me.
Crotia has now adopted the Euro and entered the Schengen zone. Sweden and Finland should be part of NATO within the next month. Moldova's application to the EU is still pending, although Moldova is asking for it to be expedited.
Pretty sure this isn't going how Putin planned.
I'll state again, the Russian military doctrine seems to be banking on the fact that Western support will wane in the coming months. They seem to forget that we've only had two world wars as a species, and the West has won both of them, so...
====Sweden and Finland should be part of NATO within the next month.====
Dreams-dreams... The best of best results will be if Finland will join NATO on July'23 session... Sweden still has to resolve problem btw Turkey and Kurds... Ankara will block any attempt of Sweden to join NATO till that time...
NATO s just waiting for Hungary and Turkey to get their shit together and that's it. I promise you, it's not as huge of a hudle as you'd like it to to be.
Not to mention, NATO is a bloc of 30 countries (soon to be 32), so things take time.
We in the West have a bloc of 30 countries that work as one when it comes to security. What does Russia have? Russia can't even get Kazakhstan to fall in line with its bullshit, so...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8UMrI6nC3k
Ok, another ~400 dead Russians and a training school turned into rubble.
What's this war even about again? I thought we were getting rid of Nazis or some such shit?
Us humans are so ridiculously stupid, it's embarrassing. I agree with Anthony Hokkins, all this shit is just a dream. It's nonsense that doesn't make any logical sense:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuR5OhK5B_U&t=98s
When the fuck are the Russians going to wake up and realize the West is not your enemy?
===When the fuck are the Russians going to wake up and realize the West is not your enemy?===
When West will fulfill own promise not to move NATO to the East.
NATO isn't moving anything. It's other countries begging NATO, "can we please join? we'll make all the changes and concessions you desire, no worries, just please let us join NATO".
NATO is not actively expanding, but you are right, NATO does offer an open membership policy. If you are willing to conform to NATO standards, then you will be allowed under NATO's security umbrella.
NATO isn't actively expanding -- they're just allowing folks who want to join in. You as Russia may want to ask why is everyone wanting to join NATO instead of the other way around? If you guys are so right in your way forward, shouldn't countries be lining up to join WARSAW v2.0 or something?
====Ok, another ~400 dead Russians and a training school turned into rubble.====
They were stupid and used mobile phones and paid for it by own life. HIMARS used to hit them. HIMARS was destructed as well by Russian missile. Correct number is 89.
Well, who knows... Russia I think says 68, and Ukraine says over 400 dead. It's war, propaganda all over, so who knows what the actual body count is. Doesn't matter, one dead Russian or Ukrainian is too many.
Doesn't change the fact the West has yet to actually engage in this war, nor has the West provided Ukraine with the advanced weaponary they're asking for. Russia seems to be quickly running out of options here, whereas the West hasn't even started yet. You do realize what the West is sending Ukraine is very minimal compared to what the West actually has at its disposal, right?
You do realize us humans have only had two world wars, and the West has won both of them, right? If you Russians want to view the West as weak, then it's going to be your demise.
Hundreds of thousands of your fellow countrymen have realized this little fact, and have fled the country in order to not get conscripted. At what point do you realize it's not worth it? At what point do you realize the West doesn't care, and doesn't view Russia as an enemy? Well, now we do obviously, but that's because you guys won't stop invading sovereign nations.
Hell, Angela Merkel spent her entire career trying to foster good relations with Russia, a decision which she now regrets. You do realize that's it's up to you as Russian citizens to put an end to the war and bloodshed, right? Why do you continue supporting the murdering of your fellow brothers, sisters, and cousins in Ukraine? It makes no sense, and the easiest way for this war to end is for you Russians to wake up, realize it's not worth it, march on the Kremlin and let Putin know he's out of a job.
====Doesn't change the fact the West has yet to actually engage in this war, nor has the West provided Ukraine with the advanced weaponary they're asking for. Russia seems to be quickly running out of options here, whereas the West hasn't even started yet. You do realize what the West is sending Ukraine is very minimal compared to what the West actually has at its disposal, right?=====
Ahahahaha... She used her skills to give time to Ukraine to collect forces and to prepare own attacks... She clearly stated it in her interviews at few past months.
=== us humans have only had two world wars, West has won both of them, right ===
First war was West against West, so victory of West is predictable. Second one Russia won for West and lost 20 millions of citizens, West "won" nuclear bombarding of civilians.
===You do realize that's it's up to you as Canadian citizens to put an end to the war and bloodshed, right?===
Just stop to supply them and this "story" will has fast end. But end will be anyway: 145:25.
===Why do you continue supporting the murdering of your fellow brothers, sisters, and cousins in Ukraine?===
Because it is war for protection of East of Ukraine where are living "fellow brothers, sisters, and cousins" who speaks Russian. Do you really think I will support Ukrainians nationalists who killed 2 of my relatives? Russia gave chance to Ukraine - Minsk agreement, and 8 years waited for it implementation. 8 years is enough, what do you think?
The New York Times wrote the same I told few weeks ago:
Quote:
Ukraine is getting more and more skilled at knocking down drones, but there is a growing imbalance: Many of its defensive weapons like surface-to-air missiles cost far more than the drones do. And that, some military experts say, may favor Moscow over the long haul.
Artem Starosiek, the head of Molfar, a Ukrainian consultancy that supports the country’s war effort, estimated that it costs up to seven times more to down a drone with a missile than it does to launch one. That is an equation that the Kremlin may be banking on, some analysts say.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/03/w...ia-drones.htmlQuote:
drones that Moscow has increasingly been relying on since October are relatively uncomplicated devices and fairly cheap, while the array of weapons used to shoot them out of the sky can be much pricier, according to experts. The self-destructing drones can cost as little as $20,000 to produce, while the cost of firing a surface-to-air missile can range from $140,000 for a Soviet-era S-300 to $500,000 for a missile from an American NASAMS
The US spends $782 billion per-year on its military, and that's not including all of Europe, the UK, Japan, Australia, South Korea, et al. You're up against a well funded force, and shortly, that force will have Patriot missile systems deployed.
I find it kind of funny that Russia has to buy drones from Iran though.
So, where was your tongue, when Ukraine cut out electricity and water from Crimea in 2014? There are living 2 mln + Should you care about them also? Something like " literally freeze to death" 8 years ago?
By the way: your logic is strange - Russia should care about Ukrainians, but Ukraine shouldn't care about own citizens in Crimea?? At least their clown-president non-stop speaks "Crimea is Ukraine" and you support them.
How was that Ukraine's fault? Crimea was part of Russia at the time, hence it was the Russian government's responsibility to provide the residents of Crimea with energy and water.
Obviously, Ukrain isn't going to support the government of the country who invaded them.
Great. So you are in my logical trap now.
Indeed, Russia did it: it took only 2 months after start of blockade to lay 4 high-power underwater cables via Azov sea and build up whole power structure in Crimea. So, nobody was "frozen to death" in Crimea despite of efforts of Ukraine.
Now is time to Ukraine to care about their infrastructure. Why should Russia care?
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Ukraine just declined 24 hours "Christmas peace" offered by Russia.
*Orthodox Christmas is tonight.
Well, lets count "long track"... please name here, how did you say? "long track"? well lets say 5 points...
and while your brains are boiling, I will remind you list for XX century:
- it is not Russia invaded to USA, but USA invaded to Russia,
- it is not Russia invaded to Germany, but Germany invaded to Russia, twice
- it is not Russia invaded to France, but France invaded to Russia,
- it is not Russia invaded to Canada, but Canada invaded to Russia,
- it is not Russia invaded to Japan, but Japan invaded to Russia,
- it is not Russia invaded to Italy, but Italy invaded to Russia,
- it is not Russia invaded to Romania, but Romania invaded to Russia
and I may continue to count... now is time for your counter...
Here is "small" list of international agreements what are still not signed or signed but not ratified by USA:
1930 Forced Labour Convention International Labour Organization signed, not ratified
1948 Freedom of Association and Protection of the Right to Organise Convention International Labour Organization not signed
1949 Right to Organise and Collective Bargaining Convention, 1949 International Labour Organization not signed
1950 Convention for the Suppression of the Traffic in Persons and of the Exploitation of the Prostitution of Others UN Secretary-General not signed
1951 Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees UN Secretary-General only 1967 protocol
1951 Equal Remuneration Convention International Labour Organization signed, not ratified
1954 Convention Relating to the Status of Stateless Persons UN Secretary-General not signed
1958 Discrimination (Employment and Occupation) Convention International Labour Organization signed, not ratified
1960 Convention against Discrimination in Education UNESCO signed, not ratified
1961 Convention on the Reduction of Statelessness UN Secretary-General not signed
1962 Convention on Consent to Marriage, Minimum Age for Marriage and Registration of Marriages UN Secretary-General signed, not ratified
1964 Employment Policy Convention, 1964 International Labour Organization signed, not ratified
1966 International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights UN Secretary-General signed, not ratified
1966 First Optional Protocol to the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights UN Secretary-General not signed
1969 Convention on the Non-Applicability of Statutory Limitations to War Crimes and Crimes Against Humanity UN Secretary-General signed, not ratified
1969 Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties UN Secretary-General signed, not ratified
1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty Bilateral US–Soviet treaty ratified 1972, withdrew 2002
1973 Minimum Age Convention, 1973 International Labour Organization signed, not ratified
1977 American Convention on Human Rights Organization of American States signed, not ratified
1977 Protocol I (Geneva Conventions amendment) UN Secretary-General signed, not ratified
1977 Protocol II (Geneva Conventions amendment) UN Secretary-General signed, not ratified
1979 Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women (CEDAW) UN Secretary-General signed 1980, not ratified[3]
1979 Salt II Bilateral US–Soviet treaty signed 1979, withdrew 1980
1979 Moon Treaty UN Secretary-General not signed
1981 Occupational Safety and Health Convention, 1981 International Labour Organization signed, not ratified
1982 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) UN Secretary-General not signed
1987 Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty Bilateral US–Soviet treaty ratified 1988, withdrew 2019
1989 Second Optional Protocol to the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights UN Secretary-General not signed
1989 Convention on the Rights of the Child (CRC) UN Secretary-General signed 1995, not ratified
1989 Basel Convention UN Secretary-General signed, not ratified
1990 International Convention on the Protection of the Rights of All Migrant Workers and Members of Their Families UN Secretary-General not signed
1992 Convention on Biological Diversity (CBD) UN Secretary-General signed, not ratified
1994 Convention on the Safety of United Nations and Associated Personnel UN Secretary-General signed, not ratified
1996 Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty UN Secretary-General signed, not ratified
1997 Kyoto Protocol UN Secretary-General signed, not ratified
1997 Ottawa Treaty (Mine Ban Treaty) UN Secretary-General not signed
1998 Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court UN Secretary-General signed 1998, withdrew 2002
1999 Optional Protocol to the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women (OP-CEDAW) UN Secretary-General not signed
1999 Civil Law Convention on Corruption Council of Europe not signed
2002 Optional Protocol to the Convention against Torture (OPCAT) UN Secretary-General not signed
2007 International Convention for the Protection of All Persons from Enforced Disappearance (ICPPED) UN Secretary-General not signed
2007 Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities UN Secretary-General signed 2009, not ratified
2008 Convention on Cluster Munitions (CCM) UN Secretary-General not signed
2011 Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA) Government of Japan signed, not ratified
2013 Arms Trade Treaty (ATT) UN Secretary-General signed, not ratified
2016 Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) signed 2016, withdrew 2017
My god, is Russia ever about to get crushed this March / April with the weapon shipments that are coming in from the West.
This whole thing is just so sad. Millions of people in Ukraine literally freezing to death, loads of boys and girls in Russia going to bed starving every night because their father and the bread winner of the house was conscripted, and the list is endless.
Now the question becomes, what happens when Russia becomes a failed state yet again? With these shipments that are coming into Ukraine over teh next few months seem to signal the West is fed up with this bullshit, and willing to put an end to it. Ukraine is slated to receive a massive amount of heavy weaponary from all over -- US, UK, Germany, France, Czech Republic, Poland, et al.
Once Russia falls, there's going to be a power vacuum. Who's going to fill it?
==== loads of boys and girls in Russia going to bed starving every night because their father and the bread winner of the house was conscripted, and the list is endless.====
who told this fantasy to you?
families of mobilized receive $2000 monthly + one time payment $1000-$4000 (depends on region of living) + all bank loans are freezed till father return + 6 months. All conscripts have insurance $75000. Their children have free education in UNI or college.
Moses, Russia lost this war the day the invaded back in Fev 2022.
Just look at what the next shipments of weaponary from the West that are being sent to Ukraine are going to be. Just simply looking at those shipments, you can tell the West is fed up with this bullshit, and is ready to put an end to this war once and for all.
Russia will become a failed state (again), and there's no question about that in my mind. There's zero chance Russia can withstand the amount of pressure that's being put on it.
The question now is, what happens once Russia fails? Who fills that power vacuum?
Matty, 145:25... West will prolong war till last Ukrainian?
Zelensky pledged this war will be over this year in 2023. Considering the fire power Ukraine is receiving over the next few months, I tend to agree with him.
Moses, you said this war would be over in a couple weeks 10 months ago, so you're not exactly a trusted bastion of knowledge.
How you are still in support of this war is beyond me. You don't seem to realize how badly this is going to go for Russia. What's Russia going to do once the war ends? You do realize Russia doesn't even really have a skilled labor force anymore, right? They're all either dead or fled the country.
You don't seem to yet realize this, but Putin has fucked Russia for decades to come, to the point Russia may actually become a failed state in the near future. Yet, you still just blindly and patriotically support the war. It's mind boggling.