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...elderly...what a cheek...they are only in their early 50's...
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From Le Figaro - for those who speak French. The article suggests research might show that nicotine actually protects people from the virus.
Et si la nicotine protégeait du Covid-19?
DÉCRYPTAGE - Pour une raison mystérieuse, les fumeurs infectés ont moins de risques de développer des symptômes de la maladie.
Par Tristan Vey
Publié il y a 15 heures, mis à jour il y a 12 heures
Une étude récente a émis l’hypothèse que la nicotine, substance présente dans le tabac, protégerait des formes sévères du coronavirus.
Une étude récente a émis l’hypothèse que la nicotine, substance présente dans le tabac, protégerait des formes sévères du coronavirus. Andrey Popov/Andrey Popov - stock.adobe.com
Tout a commencé par une intuition. «C’est le Dr Makoto Miyara, un de mes élèves, qui a attiré mon attention mi-mars sur le faible taux de fumeurs enregistré chez les patients chinois hospitalisés», raconte le Pr Zahir Amoura, chef du service de médecine interne 2, maladies auto-immunes et systémiques à l’hôpital de la Pitié-Salpêtrière, à Paris (Sorbonne université - AP-HP). «Pour tout dire, j’étais très sceptique. Les études n’insistaient pas sur ce point et les biais potentiels étaient énormes.» Et puis une infection pulmonaire qui épargne massivement les fumeurs, voilà qui semblait bien extravagant.
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«Mais le Dr Miyara a insisté. Si bien qu’au bout d’une semaine, nous avons décidé de voir si cette hypothèse tenait un tant soit peu la route sur le terrain. Avec mes collègues, un dimanche, nous avons dans un premier temps évalué le tabagisme des patients Covid de l’hôpital. C’était un simple coup de sonde, pour voir.» Le taux de fumeurs est alors si faible que décision est prise immédiatement
Cet article est réservé aux abonnés. Il vous reste 88% à découvrir.
1. There are thousands of different chemicals from a burning cigarette derived from the tobacco as well as the rolled paper etc. One can never be certain that nicotine is the beneficial component.
2 Dr Miyara made the observation on Chinese patients at the Paris hospital. How big was the sample size?What about Caucasian patient samples?
3. Has the observation gone beyond the hypothetical phase and general observation and headcount?
4. You need to subscribe to read the remaining 88% of the article. Parsimony is in the French blood.
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Here's an article in English about this french study: https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ng-coronavirus
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I doubt the efficacy here - perhaps a case of wishful thinking or simply clutching at straws.
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If this were true, Covid has a macabre sense of humor.
It is too early to tell at this point, but it is statistically relevant.
Just a few weeks ago, newspapers published that smokers were 14 times more at risk, based on a very limited Chinese study (three smokers in the test group). At least the french study is more credible.
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In the part of the article posted it says they found the number of smokers among patients lower than expected.
Nicotine is a poison, and there have been cases from babies/children dying after eating cigarettes.
It might indeed be the cases that some substance in cigarette smoke is more harmful to the virus than to human.
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When this was published published (below), I thought it was strange that the percentage of current smokers ending up in ICU is lower than the percentage of former smokers.
Perhaps lung damage + presence of nicotine is better for covid resistance than lung damage + no presence of nicotine ? [That's pure speculation]
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I suspect the tobacco industry is involved in this data manipulation.
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I suspect the tobacco industry is involved in this data manipulation.
Oh, dinagam, you are such a sceptic! Lol
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When this was published published (below), I thought it was strange that the percentage of current smokers ending up in ICU is lower than the percentage of former smokers.
Perhaps lung damage + presence of nicotine is better for covid resistance than lung damage + no presence of nicotine ? [That's pure speculation]
Only 96 out of 7162 cases (1.3%) are current smokers. That seems very low. I would speculate that the number of active smokers in the population is at least tenfold in the USA.